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Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #287

Is it just me or did this article disappear?

Same here. I get > We're sorry, the page you requested cannot be found.

Same feeling I used to get when the recorded voice on the phone line said "We're sorry". The feeling that no one was actually sorry, except the person getting the message.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #116

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If I'm debugging in an IDE or through a browsers developer tools, I absolutely use the function keys to step through/into/out of code. What should I do instead? Serious question.

Are you kidding me? How can you not see that this is nothing more than an arbitrary habit that you've grown comfortable with? Imagine the function keys had never existed to begin with. Don't you think we would have come up with a different way of stepping through code with a debugger? I understand that it's annoying to have to change your habits, but you're a developer for crying out loud: Your job is literally to ch…

It kind of is... this reminds me very much of moving from a blackberry to an iPhone. Sure, the features of the iPhone were great, but for my (at the time) primary purpose of using the device for sending emails, it as a MASSIVE step backwards. I could touch type nearly as fast on a blackberry as on a regular keyboard. Moving to a touchscreen meant I had to look at the screen while typing. It slowed me down tremendously, and IMO was a massive step backwards in usability.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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Page has gone. Other people (buried in the comments) have posted the google cache of it, but here is it again for visibility: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Vk2On-... Maybe a Feature Request for HN, would be for a 'alt' link (that mods update) as part of the clickables under the post title?

Since popular HN submissions will often hug the site to death, a nice feature would be to automatically check the top 3 caches (archive.org, Coral, Google) immediately on submission, before the page goes live on HN. If the cache doesn't 404, the content could be quickly parsed to check it matches the submission and, if so, automatically include the cache link at the top of the submission page.

This would save people manually posting these all the time and would, in many cases prevent the case where it becomes impossible to retrieve a cache, because nobody thought to access one before the slashdot effect occurs. Or, as in this case it seems, the article is pulled.

It would also be nice if, 24-48 hours after submission, the only cache link remaining is archive.org (if they have the page), so the content is retained permanently as-submitted. It's rare, but sometimes a page will be updated so the comments no longer make sense.

It would also be nice to include a link history in the same area (have requested this before), in case the original submission is changed by the mod. Usually when this happens the notice is the top comment, but sometimes it isn't and the discussion can be quite confusing as a result.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

#324
post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

Macbook pros haven't been for 'pros' for at least 4 years: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/11/08/reddit-mbps

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

That's quite an exaggerated presumption. Office for mac has been around for years. VSC will more than likely give sublime a run for its money as they are very similar on the Mac platform. Just because microsoft ports VS, it doesn't reveal anything other than giving developers that prefer Macs another IDE choice. You can get a MBP without function keys and just because Apple has decided evolve their approach to the ke…

Office for Macis also a shadow of the windows version. Excel is still single threaded!!! Madness.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

#326

Page has gone. Other people (buried in the comments) have posted the google cache of it, but here is it again for visibility: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Vk2On-... Maybe a Feature Request for HN, would be for a 'alt' link (that mods update) as part of the clickables under the post title?

That webcache link is throwing a certificate error in Chrome for me. I can't go there due to HSTS.

Here's an internet archive link that works for me: https://web.archive.org/web/20161114070745/https://msdn.micr...

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

#327
post #14

For a moment I got all excited and thought they had ported WPF to OS/X.

I get the impression that WPF is pretty much on life support.

WPF has a lot of flaws, but it is definitely still the most relevant platform for standard desktop applications (LOB, enterprise, etc.).

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

#328
post #119

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does it support reverse debugging yet?

What I want to know as somebody trying to learn C/C++, is Xcode good for somebody who is wanting to try their hand at bare metal stuff? I always hear how bad it is outside of app dev. but can it help me be productive compared to CLI environment or just using a text editor with nifty add-ons?

It's slightly better than a text editor, but not by much

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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That article is a typical example of "If it suits me, it must suit everybody." and your post is a good example for the no-true-Scotsman-fallacy of "Noone who _really_ used it dislikes it." All I really know about this is how I feel about it and I must admit that I am going to go back to the PC world when the time comes to replace my current MBP. The offerings in the PC world are not perfect for me but they suit me be…

That article is a typical example of "If it suits me, it must suit everybody." 99.9%+ of criticism of the new MBP has been of the form "Without ever interacting with one, I can tell it is unsuitable for me and therefore is unsuitable for anyone, anywhere, in any professional purpose, ever". no-true-Scotsman-fallacy of "Noone who _really_ used it dislikes it." More like "people are pre-emptively concluding, without ev…

The keyboard is missing keys I use and the specs are unimpressive. I dont need to sit down with it to know this.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #133

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I would presume that if the application hasn't been updated for the Touchbar, the Touchbar would default to displaying ESC F1 F2 F3 F4 etc..

Still though, at the moment I can step through code without really thinking about it, partly because I know where the keys are based on how the keyboard feels, combined with the tactile feedback of pressing the buttons. I would worry that with no physical presence on the keyboard, I would spend a lot more time looking at the keyboard figuring out where the function key I need is than actually getting things done. I w…

Interestingly, when Lenovo did Thinkpad T430 series, they removed the spacing between the F-keys (in order to fit ESC in the same row). Such a tiny change, yet how much usability it destroyed - suddenly it was impossible to use F-keys by touch.

With T440, the spacing was back.

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