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Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I get the impression that WPF is pretty much on life support.

It is my belief that Windows Forms will outlive WPF and/or XAML. Currently WPF is still the "modern" way to doing Windows applications, but at some point Microsoft will come up with some new scheme, and all the WPF developer will jump onto that. The developers that have still not abandoned WinForms will not jump shit when the next thing hits either. To keep the huge group of WinForms developers happy, Microsoft will…

WinForms are still the fastest way to develop complex applications as well. From soup to nuts, it's probably the pinnacle of front end development.

Trends started going from WinForms to web around 2000 as pushback against Microsoft so here we are today. I still think from a business standpoint, it was a very expensive thing to do.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I wouldn't bet my money on a Linux release

You should, Microsoft will probably release an MS Linux distro soon. (Besides the Debian or whatever they now have for Azure users, I mean.) MS is going all Oracle-y on us, withdrawing from the consumer market as fast as they can, and heading for the green pastures of the corporate market, where fat happy companies are there to be milked. They are sick and tired of fighting for consumer money one penny at a time. (XB…

The massive investment in the surface line disagrees with you.

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I don't care about the touch bar and while I'm miffed about the magsafe I can deal with shelling out extra for accidental damage insurance. Personally my disappointment is with the specs which no time with the machine will change. The mac I'm currently using was purchased 3 years with 16GB of RAM and if I replace it I will be stuck with the same capacity. I imagine there are a lot of "Pro" market segments that are we…

I've spent the last 4 years doing development from a 2012 macbook air with 8 gigs of ram. Its been totally fine, except when I've got a million chrome tabs open. (Declaring bankrupcy and closing them all at once feels great though.) The posted article is about a mac version of visual studio. Coincidentally, visual studio only runs in 32 bit mode and hence can only make use of 4 gigs of ram total: https://blogs.msdn.m…

I can't say I can really disagree with anything you've said. Good points all around. I mentioned how I use it elsewhere but I also mentioned that it may in part be a goldfish effect where I'm just being sloppy and using whatever is there and more.

Speaking of Chrome... I know of at least one browser that can avoid keeping every tab active and running but despite the cost, those tradeoffs Chrome makes lead to (in my opinion) a snappier experience.

On a related note, I know using Safari can dramatically improve battery life and may have some improved resource usage/performance characteristics but I've never been able get fully used to it without getting frustrated. It feels like death by a thousand cuts. For example, I can't tell if the dev tools are much worse or I'm just not understanding them the way I do Chrome's and Firefox's.

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I see. I was really just curious because for the longest time I got by with just 4gb on a MacBook Air until I switched to the MacBook and 8gb. I run VMs and other software on it but never really ran into a RAM issue. I think there is hope though. They'll put 32gb of ram in eventually. The explanation was that 32 uses too much power, and of course the rebuttal is "stop making it so thin", which I sympathize with. On t…

IIRC the explanation is really "this is what Intel's stuff is supporting, and we're stuck with what Intel supports", and it would've been potentially another year or more of no MBP refresh if they waited for Intel to get there.

> IIRC the explanation is really "this is what Intel's stuff is supporting, and we're stuck with what Intel supports"

All of the available CPUs support 32 GB; the i7s in the 15" model even support 64 GB.

[0] http://ark.intel.com/products/91156/Intel-Core-i5-6360U-Proc... [1] http://ark.intel.com/products/88967/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-Pro...

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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Page has gone. Other people (buried in the comments) have posted the google cache of it, but here is it again for visibility:

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Maybe a Feature Request for HN, would be for a 'alt' link (that mods update) as part of the clickables under the post title?

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I get the impression that WPF is pretty much on life support.

It is my belief that Windows Forms will outlive WPF and/or XAML. Currently WPF is still the "modern" way to doing Windows applications, but at some point Microsoft will come up with some new scheme, and all the WPF developer will jump onto that. The developers that have still not abandoned WinForms will not jump shit when the next thing hits either. To keep the huge group of WinForms developers happy, Microsoft will…

I'm still using it but there are some things that are quite painful, in particular supporting high-dpi displays.
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