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Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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Interesting, but I can also see some risks with their approach. Now they have three different Visual Studios with completely different technology stacks. 1) Visual Studio for Windows (C++, I assume?) 2) Visual Studio Code (Javascript, Atom) 3) Visual Studio for Mac (C#)

Hmm I have been googling for the last 15 minutes to find the difference between visual studio and visual studio code and cant seem to find a concrete answer. I thought yours was actually a hint at what it is aimed for but when you go to: http://code.visualstudio.com/ it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.. Having only ever developed on linux I am actually slightly excited to u…

>"it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.."

The GP was looking at the languages the tools were written in, not the languages they support.

For what it's worth, I believe 'TypeScript + Electron' would be a closer description of what VSC was based on.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

#53

I'm glad to see more Microsoft dev tools on other platforms but don't lose sight of why this is happening. Microsoft is shifting their business to the cloud. They make their money off Azure and other services. In other words, they are making their money mainly off of developers now and its in their best interest to get on the good side of devs which is why they suddenly have a vested interest in open sourcing tools a…

Literally every business does this. Apple Google

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I don't think so, it's still a MonoDevelop fork

Ah ok. So now there are three (four?) completely different products branded as "Visual Studio"? 1. The original, real Visual Studio for Windows, 2. Visual Studio Code (a fork of atom?), 3. Visual Studio for Mac, (4. Visual Studio Express?)

Yes (VS Express is still Visual Studio for Windows, just a different build config)

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

#57

I'm glad to see more Microsoft dev tools on other platforms but don't lose sight of why this is happening. Microsoft is shifting their business to the cloud. They make their money off Azure and other services. In other words, they are making their money mainly off of developers now and its in their best interest to get on the good side of devs which is why they suddenly have a vested interest in open sourcing tools a…

> don't lose sight of why this is happening. Microsoft is shifting their business to the cloud. Why is this a bad thing? Microsoft is a company, they exist to make money. A huge new market for them is 'Cloud' and they're doing everything they can to make that as appealing as possible.

If you want to be the tallest tree in the forest, you can take in the most water and sunlight to be taller than everyone else, or you can chop down all the other trees so you're the only one standing.

Back when they made money from selling operating systems, they were definitely doing some tree chopping with some of their practices.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

#58
I was excited until this: "It’s all powered by the C# language you know and love"

I'm pleased with MS's new cross-platform efforts and liked their dev tools a lot in the past, but that's an obnoxious, presumptuous, and laughable statement. I've been a professional developer on both Windows, Mac, and iOS and have never written a line of C# code.

Swift is open-source, so why not migrate to that? Why should we learn C# instead (and that's a real question, not snark)?

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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No word on VB.net. I presume MS is trying to quietly phase it out.

They said it's based on Roslyn, so it should support VB.net. In the current release of Xamarin Studio for Mac, VB is supported in GTK and console applications, while Xamarin targets only support C# and F#

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I think Microsoft will end-of-life Xamarin Studio and will convert it to Visual Studio brand with just support of OSX and Linux

I wouldn't bet my money on a Linux release

Really? They seem to be opening up quite a bit more with regards to Linux (.NET Core, WSL, etc).
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