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Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by joecool1029 »

FullMtlAlcoholc wrote: post #60

Another alternative is synthetic, lab grown diamonds. They are superior to naturally occuring diamonds, cheaper, aren't tainted by human misery and suffering like conflic/blood diamondst, and arent extracted from ecologically damaging mining techniques like open pit mining.

Yeah, well... this is the future.

The prices on these are still artificially inflated. I was told directly by the president of one of these synthetic companies that De Beers will move into large production in a few years For now, the other synthetics are just being allowed to exist as the cartel makes the transition provided they don't undercut too much and stay carefully in a few niches.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by jakewins »

stephencanon wrote: post #118
jakewins wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wife and I had read the Atlantic article before it was too late, went with plain wedding bands for both of us. However, living in America, this is causing issues for her, continuously having to explain to friends and acquaintances why she does not have a diamond. We'd been looking for used rings as an alternative - hence, thank you very much for writing this, you just saved me and my wife several thousand dollars.

> having to explain to friends and acquaintances why she does not have a diamond. I don't think this is a universal "in America" thing. Maybe in some parts of the country, but here in the northeast it seems like it's none of their business; I can't imagine asking someone to explain it, and I would think someone who did ask was being awfully nosy. FWIW my wife has a diamond ring which she almost never wears, and I can…

That's absolutely fair, I should know better than to generalize like that. We live in rural Missouri, which is probably why the social pressure is what it is.

Sorry about Trump, BTW.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by dllthomas »

ftrflyr wrote: post #96

I told my girlfriend (5 years) how I feel about diamonds and that I reject the very notion of buying a diamond engagement / wedding ring early on in our relationship. Several months ago, we landed on the marriage conversation, again. I reiterated that I am against diamond engagement bands. She then said: "What about a wedding ring then?" I told her it applies to wedding rings as well. We got into a heated argument an…

She just wants to show the world that you would hurt poor people for her.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by joecool1029 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #106
ftrflyr wrote: post #96

I told my girlfriend (5 years) how I feel about diamonds and that I reject the very notion of buying a diamond engagement / wedding ring early on in our relationship. Several months ago, we landed on the marriage conversation, again. I reiterated that I am against diamond engagement bands. She then said: "What about a wedding ring then?" I told her it applies to wedding rings as well. We got into a heated argument an…

Did you get to the point of explaining why you're against diamonds? Was she able to tell you why she wants a diamond in particular? To resolve this issue it would be good to exchange the exact, real reasons why one side wants the diamond and the other doesn't. But even then, it may end up your GF will insist on the diamond - while all the rational-in-the-vacuum reasons are against diamonds, there's this whole thing c…

Yeah well, societal pressures only go so far in influencing a relationship. If the other party can't respect your values, an argument over a diamond is the least of your worries.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by user5994461 »

gkya wrote: post #45
thebiglebrewski wrote: post #14

Can anyone give me advice on how to convince my girlfriend of this though without her thinking I love her any less :)?

If my girlfriend thought that I loved her less because I didn't give her a diamond ring, I'd reconsider my relationship.

Sounds like a good pickup line: "What do you think about diamond ring?"

Better discover the answer after 3 minutes rather than 3 years.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by Roritharr »

joshkaufman wrote: post #66

I'm the OP - surprised to see this at the top of HN today, but happy to post a quick update: My wife and I have been happily married for ten years now. She loves her ring, and it has held up extremely well. (She just had the band resized, absolutely no issues with the stones.) No one has ever thought it was anything other than a diamond ring, which includes several years of daily scrutiny from crazy New York City bri…

Thanks for writing this. My problem is only that you consider mosanite inexpensive, which is relative to Diamonds true, but from a ring search i could only find nice looking ones for >1000€ which is still expensive/hardly affordable to me.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by user5994461 »

ftrflyr wrote: post #100
digitaltrees wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use the difference in price on a down payment on a home/apartment or open a college savings account for your kids. Tell the truth, you want to build a life together and are thinking about the long term financial and personal consequences of this decision. I bought a ruby for my wife for this exact reason. I also wanted to show our community that we rejected diamonds as a tradition. I think the more we discuss this is…

This doesn't work. I have tried it. She (my GF) just argues with me about any purchase I try to make that is around the ballpark of what she is expecting me to pay for a ring. e.g. Her: So you want a new MacBook Pro, but you can't afford a $3000 engagement ring? Me: No, I need a MacBook Pro for work. This has been going on for quite some time now.

Sounds like a bad relationship to be in :(

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by user5994461 »

DanBC wrote: post #114
ginko wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That assumes that a more expensive ring buys a stabler marriage. Actually the opposite seems to be the case: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2501480

Nothing in my comment is saying that buying an expensive ring will save a marriage. I'm only saying that if your marriage lasts for 10 years, which about 66% of them do, it's weird to complain about the cost of a ring when there will be very many more expensive and equally bullshit things to spend or not spend on.

The divorce rate is increasing every day. One shouldn't based a decision on outdated marriage statistics from 10 years ago. Just sayin'

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by HiroP55 »

Estate jewellery is a good option too. Estate jewellery is often cheaper and of very good quality. Why buy something new when something 60 or 50 yrs old looks the same or better?

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Post by deutronium »

diamond1 wrote: post #48

"The big difference between moissanite and diamond is that moissanite can be manufactured reliably and efficiently in a laboratory." Thats not true, diamonds can be manufactured reliably and efficiently in a laboratory as well. And its nearly impossible to tell the difference between natural and artificial ones. Only a very complicated lab test with a machine can tell the difference.

I'm curious how difficult moissanite is to manufacture compared to diamonds, as I was under the impression diamonds require high pressure and temperature to make.
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