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Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, it might be a decade before that would even be possible again.

We can only hope that he'll be impeached for his raping/sexual assaulting.

Impeaching that rapey rapscallion with our House & Senate? Doubtful.

I don't foresee either changing, the Democrats are not likely to have better turnout 2 or 6 years from now, so the mid-terms are likely both losers that will give Trump a stronger House & Senate.

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post #8

Remember when Obama promised to close the Guantánamo prison? I think that was more than 8 years ago now. Good times. I even believed it. I guess he didn't care that much about human rights after all.

I think we can't discuss it without taking into account the fact that the President effectively lacks the power to close it himself. He has greatly reduced the population there, and may reduce it more before his term ends.

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The "we didn't know" bit is eerily familiar and I will not expand. The other thing that came to mind was the 1971 Stanford Experiment (Zimbardo). It is ironical that this experiment would not be able to take place today, out of "ethical" considerations but that its real-life version is publicly funded and tacitly approved. All this is extremely frightening...

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can only hope that he'll be impeached for his raping/sexual assaulting.

Impeaching that rapey rapscallion with our House & Senate? Doubtful. I don't foresee either changing, the Democrats are not likely to have better turnout 2 or 6 years from now, so the mid-terms are likely both losers that will give Trump a stronger House & Senate.

I predict a huge Democratic turnout in 2018. I don't think Trump will run for reelection in 2020.

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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post #8

Remember when Obama promised to close the Guantánamo prison? I think that was more than 8 years ago now. Good times. I even believed it. I guess he didn't care that much about human rights after all.

The focus on Guantanamo in particular is disturbing. We operate other prisons with similar purposes, practices, and conditions around the world. Even the people who wanted it closed only wanted that one closed.

I'm surprised they didn't just move everyone to black sites and call it a day.

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The staff and all involved are traitors to the human race. I hope they're charged as war criminals some day.

For that it must be a war.

Killing random people in terror acts is not making you a warrior, it just de-facto withdraws your human rights.

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The "we didn't know" bit is eerily familiar and I will not expand. The other thing that came to mind was the 1971 Stanford Experiment (Zimbardo). It is ironical that this experiment would not be able to take place today, out of "ethical" considerations but that its real-life version is publicly funded and tacitly approved. All this is extremely frightening...

I think people still don't really know. Forced sterilization was routine in parts of the US up until the 1970s (and widespread prior to WWII).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Unite...

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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The "we didn't know" bit is eerily familiar and I will not expand. The other thing that came to mind was the 1971 Stanford Experiment (Zimbardo). It is ironical that this experiment would not be able to take place today, out of "ethical" considerations but that its real-life version is publicly funded and tacitly approved. All this is extremely frightening...

I think people still don't really know. Forced sterilization was routine in parts of the US up until the 1970s (and widespread prior to WWII). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Unite...

Interestingly the story of A. Turing usually ends with WWII, and doesn't go on to tell that the state he did so much for forcedly sterilized him, driving him into suicide.

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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post #17

The staff and all involved are traitors to the human race. I hope they're charged as war criminals some day.

For that it must be a war. Killing random people in terror acts is not making you a warrior, it just de-facto withdraws your human rights.

Isn't terrorism outside war a criminal act? Aren't human rights so called because all humans have them?
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