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Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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It is just plainly hypocritical to have psychiatric care at Guantánamo. The single purpose of that institution is to destroy people on the inside and outside.

In that kind of environment, I imagine the psychiatrists could only make things worse.

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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The staff and all involved are traitors to the human race. I hope they're charged as war criminals some day.

Unfortunately, it might be a decade before that would even be possible again.

We can only hope that he'll be impeached for his raping/sexual assaulting.

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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Ultimately, a person cannot control what other people do, but that person can control what decisions they make. After WW2, we decided that "following orders" is no excuse for war crimes (Nuremberg principle IV). To me, the situation seems eerily reminiscent of the doctor in V for Vendetta.

    Delia Surridge: [Curtains are drawn back, allowing moonlight to come in]
    It's you, isn't it? You've come to kill me?

    V: Yes.

    Delia Surridge: Thank God.

    Delia Surridge: After what happened. After what they did. I thought about
    killing myself. I knew that one day you'd come for me. I didn't know what
    they were going to do. I swear to you. Read my journal.

    V: What they did was only possible because of you.

    Delia Surridge: Oppenheimer was able to change more than a course of a
    war. It changed the entire course of human history. Is it wrong to hold
    on to that kind of hope?

    V: I've not come for what you've hoped to do. I've come for what you did.

    Delia Surridge: It's funny. I was given one of your roses today. I wasn't
    sure you were the terrorist until I saw it. What a strange coincidence
    that I should be given one today.

    V: There are no coincidences, Delia. Only the illusion of coincidences.

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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Remember when Obama promised to close the Guantánamo prison? I think that was more than 8 years ago now. Good times. I even believed it. I guess he didn't care that much about human rights after all.

Read this:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/01/why-obama-has-f...

Yes, it's very long. It turned out to be much harder to close Guantánamo Bay than Obama thought, with powerful forces in the government opposing or stalling.

(It's also illustrative of the difficulties Trump may have carrying through any of his promises that are controversial with the Republican orthodoxy.)

Re: Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at Guantánamo

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It is just plainly hypocritical to have psychiatric care at Guantánamo. The single purpose of that institution is to destroy people on the inside and outside.

In that kind of environment, I imagine the psychiatrists could only make things worse.

Reminds me of Peter Gabriel's 1982 song "Wallflower":

  "Loaded questions
  From clean white coats
  Their eyes are all as hidden
  As their Hippocratic Oaths"
The song is painfully truthful still.
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