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If Tesla’s not competitive, then it’s not competitive. I’m glad to see the government involvement being reduced. Let the free market handle things.
Letting the free market handle things works, IF your only goal is economic. And while that is important, there are bigger pictures to worry about. Like, preserving a habitable planet.
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> he only truly cares about himself that's one hell of a claim
He exhibits all the diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These people, by definition, only care about themselves.
Trump just got elected President of the United States; it is not negatively affecting him. And people who work around him seem to like him.
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Letting the free market handle things works, IF your only goal is economic. And while that is important, there are bigger pictures to worry about. Like, preserving a habitable planet.
yes because we can undo china and india's record breaking smog and pollution. /s
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Yes, he has said things that are very pro-renewable. Even his pro-coal stance is pro "clean" coal. A "clean" requirement for coal-based energy sources will effectively make it less economically viable relative to other energy sources. Of course, he has also said some stupid things that are very anti-renewable when he has been in front of audiences that wanted to hear that (some parts of his base). Which Donald Trump…
>Which Donald Trump is real Donald Trump? The one that wants all forms of energy? Because that would make the most economic sense. Let the market compete.
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Yes, he has said things that are very pro-renewable. Even his pro-coal stance is pro "clean" coal. A "clean" requirement for coal-based energy sources will effectively make it less economically viable relative to other energy sources. Of course, he has also said some stupid things that are very anti-renewable when he has been in front of audiences that wanted to hear that (some parts of his base). Which Donald Trump…
>Which Donald Trump is real Donald Trump? The one that wants all forms of energy? Because that would make the most economic sense. Let the market compete.
Not like I'm particularly sad, watching Germany fuck itself up so bad with renewables :/ (Price of electricy at least doubled), grid requires massive investments all the time (also, Germany had to decouple from Austria because they caused massive strain on countries in between due to volatility in Germany), the per year energy produced is still barely worth mentioning and the best part is, they effectively increased the emissions, since any energy intensive industry is long gone and relocated to China where it runs on coal PP with way lower emission standards
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Oh, come on. A major reason people buy Tesla vehicles because they "want to do their part" for the environment.
If they wanted to do that, they'd presumably buy a smaller electric car. People but Teslas to show off, to a large extent.
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Tesla and its customers enjoy a fair bit of subsidies. According to the LA Times that number is around $5bn. Trump has stated he wants to cut these types of subsidies and others for renewables as part of his belief that climate change is a "Chinese hoax." I think Elon has a right to worry here as his products are probably too expensive without these subsidies. Even the Model 3 is pricey without that $7,500 tax break.…
Isn't getting rid of corporate welfare a good thing?
This is based on completely the wrong premise, Tesla is an unsubsidized car company. Even if the Solar City deal goes through and the value goes to $0 within a year Tesla will still be a great thriving company. Not only is Tesla a shinning example of American manufacturing (a main Trump tenant), they create cars that are better and more performant then competing gasoline cars, they do it at much higher margins. Tesla…
Except that they use a ton of automation. I'm very curious how this will play out under Trump. Because even if he does all the things he's been talking about (pulling out of trade deals and raising tariffs) and even if it has the intended short-term effect of bringing more manufacturing back to America, there will be a lot of automation and it probably won't look very much like it did in the pre-globalization good-old days that his base wants to revert to.
What then? They'll need somewhere other than trade deals to point the blame.
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It's probably cheaper for government and taxpayers in the long run to for the govermnent to aid in the development of markets for alternative energy that can reduce the negative externalities of pollution, the international control of conventional fuel sources, and ease the transition from finite nonrenewables as supply diminishes, than to sit it out completely and deal with the aftermath. Not many private investors…
Serous question, why not just fund/subsidize the research and development until it's actually competitive? Then when it's ready to bring to market give them a huge investment for the infrastructure to combat the high barrier to entry in return for something we want as a society, like say, a cap on battery costs or an open charging protocol. Are electric cars, as they currently stand, really so environmentally friendl…
Renewable power plants/companies receive both tax incentives and R&D subsidies from state and federal government, and there is research being done directly by the DOE at national labs, as well as at universities etc. from DOE grants. There are also private companies that get DOE research grants for a range of pure through applied research.
It's unlikely that grid-scale renewables could be developed in a wholly R&D environment then deployed at once. And then what would the government do? License or auction technology that hasn't been field tested at scale? Utilities, local governments and private companies would still probably need intermediaries to set things up. So it makes sense to provide some direct funding and some tax incentives to allow companies to do their own R&D, collaborate with government researchers, and work with utilities to bring systems online. Market disruption due to sudden, untested new entrants is less appealing with utility power than with phones--it makes sense to work for a gradual transition.
As far as consumer-scale power generation (rooftop solar or whatever), I think what you've suggested is pretty much what's happening, but I don't follow it. (I'm not a homeowner but have done DOE funded geothermal research with a private R&D company, Altarock LLC.)
edit: Electric cars are also abstracted from the type of power plant that produces the energy, unlike internal combusion cars, so having more of them is more amenable to a somewhat rapidly evolving power generation landscape.
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He exhibits all the diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These people, by definition, only care about themselves.
One of the criteria for a mental illness is that it's negatively affecting your ability to work, have social relationships, etc. Trump just got elected President of the United States; it is not negatively affecting him. And people who work around him seem to like him.
He's a pussy grabbing, race-baiting, wall-building, orange fuck.
Nothing really to be concerned about. It's all good.