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Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by pconner »

ddorian43 wrote: post #544
mtaksrud wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate on what these things are? PC, SJW, safe-space, trigger-warning an micro aggression(?)

pc=politically correct sjw=social justice warrior trigger-warning=just google it. there are people that go in panic when they hear certain stuff (kinda insane really) safe space= a place that protects you from words that trigger you micro aggresion= normal aggresion is hitting someone example, micro aggresion is looking wrong, or saying something ~" bad "~ a good example: watch the "hugh mungus" fenomen (original vid…

> trigger-warning=just google it. there are people that go in panic when they hear certain stuff (kinda insane really)

There are people who experience panic disorder/ptsd. Being "triggered" into a panic attack can literally require hospitalization. Just because you are fortunate enough to not experience this doesn't mean that all people are.

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Post by croon »

clifanatic wrote: post #671
croon wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. Well that's blatantly false. That was Trump's entire campaign. All I've heard all year was "Benghazi", "emails" and "crooked", all of which were just rephrasing of the same thing, repeated in perpetuum. It most definitely worked.

You never heard him say "build a wall"?

Fair enough, you got me there.

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Post by gecko »

elevensies wrote: post #379
user837387 wrote: post #55

He got elected on all these promises. 1- Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it 2- Deportation Force on day one 3- Repeal obamacare 4- Renegotiate NAFTA 5- Bring back coal 6- Reduce taxes for the rich 7- Ban muslims 8- Prosecuting Hillary Clinton 9- Bring back American companies to the USA 10- Etc. The Senate and the House are Republicans and the Supreme court will lean republican after his appointment. What do yo…

Predictions: - @POTUS twitter account is going to start tweeting at 3AM - I think illegal immigration enforcement could see the most drastic and immediate change. To my knowledge the status quo is not legislated in any way, and was created by preventing enforcement rather than any legal means. When low-skill unemployment bottoms out the motivation will start to weaken. - whatever was done by Obama by executive order,…

They have literally announced they're going to try to undo Roe v. Wade and repeal all LGTBQ protections they can. Like, that literally already happened. So I think we're already past the "[won't] enact or seek to promote any racist or sexist policies". I suspect that's because Trump has effectively delegated the entire office of President to Pence.

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Post by mylesm »

belorn wrote: post #545
_fizz_buzz_ wrote: post #83

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> That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country Is not winning the popular vote really a strong mandate? http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/09/501393501/...

Was discussing this earlier, how many countries are actually ruled by popular vote? The recent Iceland election brings in mind, where the six constituencies makes a vote in Reykjavík count less than any other vote. The reason for that is if they didn't, citizens of Reykjavík would have a majority on their own in any national election. Similar, Sweden have a similar system where a vote from the small island of Gotland…

I don't think any citizen's vote should count more than another just because they're part of a minority, geographic or otherwise. Imagine the uproar that would ensue if a politician suggested that a racial, ethnic, or religious minority group would have their votes count for more.

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Post by eruditely »

People are pretending that only rural whites voted for them, when the category for white includes Pashtuns, Persians, and other Iranians , and I'm almost certain a majority of Sikhs voted for Trump like I did. Thank god, this was nothing if not a complete rejection of he politics of New England.

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Post by pasquinelli »

dmode wrote: post #410

A minority of Americans (note that Clinton is winning the popular vote) have too much power over the world. A Bush presidency destroyed the world, because people wanted to have beer with him. A Trump presidency will even do further damage because people "hated the establishment"

and i suspect that they hated the establishment simply as a way of having a strong opinion without actually knowing anything about what's going on.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by mylesm »

ep103 wrote: post #358
matthewmacleod wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now let's move forward on the direction that's been chosen I guess one of the bigger problems is that it's utterly unclear what direction has been chosen. I think it's fair to say—do correct me if you think I'm wrong—that most of the policies that were advocated by Trump prior to the election will not be put into practice. There are a few reasons for that – many of them are practically unworkable, or contradictory, o…

This was a rejection of the political establishment, rejection of neo-liberal economics, and a rejection of both the neo-conservative and (to a lesser degree) the libertarian wings of the republican party.

Serious question (and I think the source of the confusion as to what direction has been chosen): if all those philosophies have been rejected, what exactly are we left with? What was being advocated?

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Post by pasquinelli »

forgetsusername wrote: post #323
wnevets wrote: post #193

The cognitive dissonance required to be a trump supporter is quite amazing. For example states that legalized weed but voted for trump.

> The cognitive dissonance required to be a trump supporter is quite amazing I love how the left continues to believe that implying the right are stupid and incapable is still a winning strategy.

maybe someone posting on a message board isn't part of "the left's" strategy, but rather a human being saying something.

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Post by dopamean »

Animats wrote: post #614

Trump's likely cabinet selections are in the press.[1] Treasury - probably Steven Mnuchin, another Goldman Sachs guy. Trump may not be as anti Wall Street as he said he was. State - Bob Corker (Senate foreign relations chair) or Newt Gingrich. Both are long-time Washington insiders. Defense - about four candidates, mostly long-time Washington insiders. Attorney General - Rudy Guilani, probably. As a prosecutor, he to…

Rudy Giuliani gets way, way too much credit for the decrease in crime in NYC during his term in office. If he's really going to go after big crime (corporate things, drug cartels, etc) then I might be able to stomach him as Attorney General. But if he want's to encourage stop and frisk type bullshit on a national level (I'm not even sure he can do that) I would be very, very worried.

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Post by pasquinelli »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #405

Two questions from a non-USian: 1. Can Trump deliver the results expected by the people who voted for him? 2. If he can't, what happens then? In particular, what kind of leader comes after him?

that's what's great: they don't expect anything from him.
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