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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by WillPostForFood » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:37 PM UTC

nopinsight wrote: post #71

Since the GOP now holds both Congress and the Presidency, with a likelihood of continued Supreme Court majority, they may enact some protectionist policies to appease the voters. However, these could in fact make the economic situations worse and some people would start to blame other things. Could the backlash spill to the technology and related sectors as well (e.g. a neo-Luddite movement might get started)? Note:…

Why neo-luddite? You can probably look at Trump's manic use of Twitter as an pro-technology indicator.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by _of » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:37 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #194

People always say things like politics doesn't work. It doesn't matter who you vote for, nothing changes. The president has very little actual power. Most politicians agree about 95% of things. I have always thought those people were naive. I wake up this morning hoping that I was the one who was naive and Trump will be unable to do the damage that many of us are worried he will do.

The president of the US has quite a lot of powers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_of_the_President_of_the...

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by daodedickinson » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

_audakel wrote: post #264

phreack wrote: post #27

As an outsider, it is painfully clear that I should not try to move my business to the US at this point. Europe's looking better than ever now for tech startups.

With the Brexit, many Euro companies near to defaulting and Russia moving troops to its western boarders, you really think Europe is a better place? USA has its fair share of problems, but I would not go so far as to say anywhere else is more ideal for startups (or living). yet. As much bad emotions as their are going around this election, we don't kill buissness leaders who oppose us (russia) kill political leaders…

>don't... kill political leaders who [disagree with] us

But Hillary said she wanted to drone Assange and Obama assassinated two US Citizens abroad, one a minor.

Not to mention the leaked audio revealing that Clinton wanted to rig the 2006 Palestinian election. And she said that to foreign reporters with tape recorders, not CIA suits in a bunker.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

Scirra_Tom wrote: post #303

huac wrote: post #109

I have a lot of thoughts, but here's one: Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. It's undoubtably true now that there was a very real populist anger towards the existing political order, and…

> Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump Until now I thought that wasn't a bad strategy against Trump as he had said and done so many repulsive things far far beyond what I would of thought the voting population would of tolerated. For example, "grabbing women by the p *y" I would of thought would have alienated the entire female voting population. For some reason, some women voters seeme…

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by pcunite » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

huac wrote: post #109

I have a lot of thoughts, but here's one: Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. It's undoubtably true now that there was a very real populist anger towards the existing political order, and…

>> ... and shaming Bernie/Stein supporters

This ... the voting public was told over and over what to think, told what was best for us. We decided for ourselves.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by revelation » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

croon wrote: post #335

huac wrote: post #109

I have a lot of thoughts, but here's one: Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. It's undoubtably true now that there was a very real populist anger towards the existing political order, and…

> In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. Well that's blatantly false. That was Trump's entire campaign. All I've heard all year was "Benghazi", "emails" and "crooked", all of which were just rephrasing of the same thing, repeated in perpetuum. It most definitely worked.

You're in a bubble. No worries, we all are, I think New York Times had that "Clinton win probability" meter at >90% for many many months. It slipped to >80% or so on election day.

I've come to realize that all their statistics foo is just peddled propaganda in opaque packaging. Utterly worthless.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by Shivetya » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:39 PM UTC

The media and many people need to ask, why were the Republicans mocked for having seventeen contenders and no one made hay out of the fact that Democrats only had three

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by daodedickinson » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:39 PM UTC

rhodysurf wrote: post #481

IanDrake wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't vote for Trump, but what LGBTQ rights are you talking about? I don't recall any federal law that passed granting them rights. Also, what sort of income equality were you hoping a Democratic government would implement? How would the mechanics of that work?

Marriage Equality?

Where did Trump say during this campaign he was going to ban gay marriage? Was that when he was waving a rainbow flag to begin his speech in Colorado the other day?

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by WillPostForFood » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:39 PM UTC

wnevets wrote: post #193

The cognitive dissonance required to be a trump supporter is quite amazing. For example states that legalized weed but voted for trump.

In regards to that issue last night, all three states that legalized recreational marijuana (California, Nevada, Massachusetts) voted against Trump. The one state that rejected it (Arizona) went for Trump.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by CalChris » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 5:40 PM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #396

CalChris wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, Republicans did this. Don't blame this on Hillary (hint: she won the popular vote). Don't blame this on Democrats. Accept responsibility. As for likable, Hillary has been the most admired woman in America, 14 years straight. Trump ran the most negative fact free campaign ever to overcome her likability.

Most admired woman in America, winning that honor with a whopping 13% of respondents. She got 60 million people to vote for her. It's not a surprise that some people liked her. The problem is that many people hated her. Winning that title doesn't disprove that in any way.

The people who hated her were told to hate her. Again and again. And again. If you told them her policies and put an R after her name, they'd celebrate Hillary as an American Maggie Thatcher.

Dragging her down into the ditch was the only thing Trump could do. He couldn't run on his business record (terrible) or personal character (worthless). He had only one path and that was to go negative against someone he'd praised over and over.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/trump-files-many...

And it worked for him.