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Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Re: Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by robalfonso »

Shivetya wrote: post #658

What I am most interested in going forward. His cabinet. That will tell us where he really is going. If he meets with both sides quickly. Also, I want to see if President Obama is gracious today or not. He has a chance to make the transition smooth but at the same time his own rhetoric has not been encouraging as of late. If he poisons the well all bets are off

At the end of the day I hold hope he'll approach this like a business. He'll hire the best he can find, fire the incompetent (of which government has many) and generally clean things up. What remains to be seen is how much the politics of any one group may stop that type of thing.

Re: Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by golergka »

simosx wrote: post #347

Both the BREXIT campaigners and Trump over-promised on how they will fix the financial crisis. Neither started to deliver yet, and will be seeing what they can actually do in 2017. It kinda does not make sense because their promises are either mutually exclusive (strict fiscal policy but spending) or do not play well with the rest of the world (tariffs and other trade restrictions which eventually would be matched on…

> Neither started to deliver yet

Election day was yesterday. Shocking how Trump hasn't fixed US economy yet.

Re: Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by qb45 »

erikb wrote: post #520
thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

I thought about your text a few hours. Because some of it sounds really right, but somehow it also feels strange. You say, if I understand you correctly, that the rural voter is the majority, and that we should finally start to listen to his needs, ideas, fears and dreams. And I agree that we should listen to the majority and figure out how to make most people happy. But exactly this "rural voter" is not the one who…

> we should finally start to listen to his needs, ideas, fears and dreams.

> his needs are obvious and simple as well. Give him a job that exhausts him, give him a wife, 1-2 children, a tv, if possible a single family home. Then he's happy and won't trouble any politician.

Yeah, right, sounds like you got it.

Please somebody tell me this is sarcasm ridiculing the leftists.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12909204

Re: Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by hyperdunc »

buchanaf wrote: post #142

Whelp, on the bright side future historians will now have an easy way to mark the decline of the United States. I feel totally numb. As an American, I could not be any more disappointed in the people of this country.

I'm sorry to hear they don't live up to your standards.

I'm feeling rather excited that Americans decided to take a gamble.

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Post by defen »

nostrademons wrote: post #327
thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

Something I've been wondering about: We're seeing this pattern where the coasts of many countries are cosmopolitan and well-integrated into the world economy, but the interiors are very conservative and nationalistic. Scotland & London vs. Wales & the rest of Britain. The U.S. West Coast & Northeast vs. the Farm Belt, Rust Belt, and Mountain states. Croatia & Slovenia vs. the rest of Yugoslavia. The Baltic Republics…

> On one of my teams of 10 people at Google, we had immigrants from Iceland, England, Vietnam, China, Taiwan, and India, and I was the only native-born American citizen. California would sooner secede than deport all of its immigrants.

If you think the immigration debate is about Google employees, I think you don't understand the immigration debate.

> If push came to shove and the interior decided to push a nativist, nationalist agenda, what if the coastal regions that benefit significantly from trade were to say "Okay, you guys can play with yourself, we're going to play with the rest of the world."

The interior (culturally and geographically) is massively over-represented in the security forces and military. So good luck with that.

Re: Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by tim333 »

Strilanc wrote: post #308
rl3 wrote: post #157

This election proved that virtually the entirety of the election prediction space has no idea what the hell it's doing. We live in a world of big data with vast computational resources, and this outcome is somehow an upset—a totally unexpected surprise.

538 gave more than 25% chance to Trump winning. That's losing two coin flips, not "totally unexpected".

And in fairness to Nate, he was saying the polls were about 42 Trump 45 Clinton with ~13% undecided and those undecideds could send the election either way. With hindsight I'd say quite a few undecideds were Trump supporters who were afraid to admit it which I can understand. Just look at the reaction to Theil backing Trump with various calls for him to be fired. I can see why people kept quiet about it.

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Post by CM30 »

bdrool wrote: post #32

This event and Brexit are proof that you cannot shame people into voting how you want. Calling them bigots over and over just galvanizes them if anything.

True.

And let's not forget that the GamerGate fiasco shared a lot of things in common with Brexit and Trump's presidency in how the media covered it too. The media tried to attack people over and over while painting those it disagreed with as bigots, and it worked about as poorly then as it did with this election and Trump supporters.

But no, same general pattern occurred with both Brexit and Trump, with similar results.

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Post by beatpanda »

sergiotapia wrote: post #281

It's been an incredible journey and frankly it's amazing he managed to cross the finish line. What a winner! I'm excited about the future of my country. OPTIMISM! No more self loathing and defeatism. Time to rekindle the American dream.

How coul you be optimistic about someone whos main campaign promise is to unleash wave after wave of state violence against people living in the US? How could you be that sick?
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