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Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Obama rode to power on change ticket and immediately abandoned it, wholesale. OK that didn't work so who else you got? Bernie, outsider with nothing, no money, no establishment friends, too old, been a democtat for 5 minutes and nearly got the democratic nomination and the dem establishment hate him and broke the rules fighting him. Donald has fame and got the republican nomination. Republican establishment hate him.…

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I don't think Donald Trump won these elections. Rather Hillary Clinton lost them.

I've never been much of an HRC fan, but it's hard to see what she could have done differently, based on the information available. Aside from "don't be Hillary Clinton, with all the baggage that involves", of course. A candidate less well-known to the public might have done better in a "change"-focused election. But she pretty much ran a campaign according to all the best practices, and lost to a guy who basically di…

I was really impressed with her performance in the debates. She must have unbelievable self-control. Her baggage isn't even her own baggage; people have been attacking and hating her for decades, apparently only for having the gall to be an ambitious woman in politics, while being married to a successful man in politics.

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I didn't want this to happen, but I believed it would. There were a lot of signals, for those ignoring the group-think. e.g. Clinton needed a lot more help than Trump to get big crowds to her rallies, and Obama had to get involved at the last minute in allegedly "safe" states. There is deep frustration with our economic system, which isn't being addressed. Clinton is unfortunately a very clear embodiment of the curre…

Just to add: Trump won despite being massively out-spent, despite his party being against his nomination, despite the entire mainstream media being against him, despite his business "issues", and despite all the publicised gaffes and scandals. In the face of that he seems to have won significantly more of the "white women" vote than Clinton. Anyone seriously believing he won due to bigotry etc. needs to reassess. The…

To be fair, money in presidential elections typically just buys exposure. In a ceaseless chase for ratings, every media source for the past two years has shown every Trump speech and event live and in whole. Even with her stash, Trump saw more airtime than Hillary.

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Just tell me, how all those polls got it wrong. People were afraid of telling what they really want?

The LA times poll did not get it wrong.

Yea it did, she will probably take the popular vote. It was the state polls that were the problem.

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And this is what you get when you eviscerate education budgets and remove things like civics and government from the classroom, or make it AP-only.

The awesome part is that since I can't legally vote, I get to point at the rest of you and act like I'm George Carlin for the next four years. Brace yourselves.

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Saddened to see the world heading towards a very unsavory place. The Brexit effect is going to take us backward and backward. We are going to see more hatred being spread :(. How did we come down to this place?. #1 Americans policy in the middle east is a total washout. The repercussions of it is starting to rear its head. #2 The rigidity of the staunch followers of religions in following the rule of the land. I mean…

> Age shouldn't be the only criteria to allow someone in voting process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test

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Such a watershed moment. A few things strike me: * A Republican just won without being very religious and being wishy-washy on abortion. * The loser out-spent the winner by huge amounts. Does money really buy elections? Maybe, but not this one. * The rich abandoned Republicans, but many poor and working-class abandoned Democrats. [1] 1: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/e...

> "The loser out-spent the winner by huge amounts. Does money really buy elections? Maybe, but not this one." I would have said attention buys elections, and Trump was the kind of candidate that had the media tripping over themselves to give him free coverage. That definitely seems to explain the primary season, but the general election campaign turned things around a bit by consisting almost solely of negative atten…

> had the media tripping over themselves to give him free coverage.

Media treated people as idiots, in some cases CNN went to levels of stupidity and lies that would have put Fox to shame. They thought they were helping their candidate, but they were actually hurting the cause.

The fact that many Democrats have voted for Trump doesn't mean Trump is great necessarily, it means they really hated Hillary and what she represented (and no, not because she is a woman, if anything this will always be remembered as step-back for woman as a US president, people will remember Hillary and cringe next time).

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Unbelievable. With the House and Senate.

That's what you get with a Democratic "leader" such as Hillary Clinton. She inspired no one to come to vote. Most of those that voted for her did it so Trump doesn't win. But voting against someone rather than for someone is almost always a losing strategy, proved once again today.

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I, like many, did not see this coming and I am truly afraid for the future of the USA. We sure showed up Brexit, though.

Honestly, I doubt you'll have very much to worry about. Sure a few minor but very visible things may change, but overall nothing major is going to change in four years. Much of what Trump want to do isn't something that the US can actually afford to implement. The worst thing Trump could do is the take the US in an isolationist direction, but that's not going to happen because it would hurt the wealthy people... like…

Affordable care act will likely be repealed. That will affect a good deal of us.

EPA may lose funding. The world will begin feeling that in about a decade.

Department of education will likely lose funding. The US will lose the STEM race to India and China. We'll feel that in about 20 years.

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