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Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I know in Canada they have a media blackout for each timezone until polls close (or are almost closed). The assumption is people will change their vote based on early counts. However, that may have changed with the internet since you can't stop anyone from getting early results. Edit: yup, looks like Canada stopped that back in 2014 [1] [1] http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/electi…

> The assumption is people will change their vote based on early counts. I think the most likely problem is not votes being swayed by popularity -- probaly moreso is turnout being impacted by a large lead.

Agreed. Seeing that the person you'd vote for is so far behind that it's not worth voting at all.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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And the answer can be easily found in e.g. Federalist papers and even Wikipedia.

I would also hope (I would write 'expect', but I am a bit cynical about the quality of US education) this was taught in elementary school.

People are also inclined to forget things they don't like.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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post #131

It's looking like it might be a Brexit moment for the USA. The filter bubble echo chamber of social media and 24/7 coverage of celebrities stumping for Clinton is going to leave a lot of people shocked tomorrow when/if it's officially given to Trump.

To be fair, the polls were consistently in the opposite direction. 538 had clinton at 70%, PEC at 99%, everyone else somewhere in between. It's a black swan event, bubble or no.

LA times had it for trump. They had their own weighting. Their results when adjusted for commonly accepted weighting matched the common poll average. So it is in the weighting.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#176
post #88

Why isn't the president decided by the percentage of votes? Seems to me, there are a lot voters whose vote essentially are useless? I kind of understand the house and senate being more regional representation, but the president kind of represents all Americans, no?

It was originally designed to stop stupid people from throwing the election. We'll see tonight if it still works.

Wouldn't we not know until the Electoral College meets?

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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It's looking like it might be a Brexit moment for the USA. The filter bubble echo chamber of social media and 24/7 coverage of celebrities stumping for Clinton is going to leave a lot of people shocked tomorrow when/if it's officially given to Trump.

Not surprised; a day of reckoning was bound to come for the left. Consider that even if Trump had lost, his power base would still have existed afterward. Trump is not the problem, Trump is a symptom. The American left took its eyes off of what's important, namely the working class, and instead spent its time and political capital on frivolous[0] causes. This is a wake-up call to refocus. [0] Lots of things some migh…

Except ... how the fuck is Trump going to help those people. It's like those poor, white, rural (, racist) working class folks are eating their face to spite their face.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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post #143

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Canada's immigration site is down due to volume. It won't happen, but it'd be hilarious if the Democrats planned to rig future elections by importing millions of immigrants to vote for them, and they instead end up emigrating by the millions to Canada thus swinging it in the opposite direction.

At this point I'd almost welcome a truly rigged system, or even a secret service member who doesn't mind a lifetime in prison. Eight years of W. Bush was bad, and frankly I doubt the economy could withstand whatever Trump has in "mind".

As someone who very much dislikes the prospect of a Trump presidency, and is in fact well to the left of the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton on most social and economic issues, I find this line of thinking quite troubling.

Perhaps rather than hoping for assassinations or voter fraud, those of us who identify as "progressive" could instead channel that mental energy into finding ways to better appeal to large groups of working class people who are imo justifiably angry at the state of things in this country.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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You are not alone; many Americans have the same question.

And the answer can be easily found in e.g. Federalist papers and even Wikipedia.

Yes, we can find the answer as to why they were originally implemented.

However, my interpretation of the original question was that of "why are they still in existence?".

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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post #168

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I had a feeling this was going to happen today when I saw that virtually everyone in my Facebook feed and everyone on the streets of NYC was supporting Hillary. Every extra +1 in NYC is pretty much going to be -1 in a swing state. As one of the hundreds of folks banned from DailyKos for being too liberal, I've been spending some time reading the Trump subreddit, and I have to say that Hillary has run perhaps the wors…

Yep. Trump is a monster, but this feels sort of good knowing how Clinton and her supporters acted. If only people could have seen the light about the Clintons a year ago, then maybe there would've been better choices today. And remember! The blame for a Trump presidency lies with none other than Hillary Clinton. She's the one that cheated a popular opponent in the primaries, that strategized to promote Trump during t…

It sounds like you want to cut off your nose to spite your face.
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