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Tech Jobs, Cheaper Housing: The New Silicon Cities

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Re: Tech Jobs, Cheaper Housing: The New Silicon Cities

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My wife is looking at residency programs (she will be an MD). She has an interview at UCSF, but we are not sure we will go--San Francisco is just too expensive. Salary is only $65000 and we have to pay back student loans. I cant't imagine any doctor wanting to train in San Francisco. The city is pricing itself out of existence.

Same. Fiancee interviewed at Stanford last year for a surgery fellowship. But it was never high on the list because of the cost. Oddly enough, ended up in Little Rock which is starting to develop a tech market and is crazy cheap to live in (I came from DC).

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My fiancee is currently going through the same process. She's going to, but not taking seriously, the interviews she has in Manhattan. OTOH, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and a few other cities look promising. Some of the programs in Manhattan and Brooklyn are paying ~55000. She's in (we're in) >400000 in debt from the med school loans. There's no chance we can go there. (Maybe if they paid ~100000.)

Out of curiosity how do you run up >400k from med school? That number seems higher than what I usually read about.

NYU estimates med school costs at $80k per year [1], for four years. Toss in $80k for undergrad and bam, you're at $400k.

[1] http://www.med.nyu.edu/school/admissions/fees-and-financial-...

Re: Tech Jobs, Cheaper Housing: The New Silicon Cities

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My wife is looking at residency programs (she will be an MD). She has an interview at UCSF, but we are not sure we will go--San Francisco is just too expensive. Salary is only $65000 and we have to pay back student loans. I cant't imagine any doctor wanting to train in San Francisco. The city is pricing itself out of existence.

My fiancee is currently going through the same process. She's going to, but not taking seriously, the interviews she has in Manhattan. OTOH, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and a few other cities look promising. Some of the programs in Manhattan and Brooklyn are paying ~55000. She's in (we're in) >400000 in debt from the med school loans. There's no chance we can go there. (Maybe if they paid ~100000.)

Medicine/Tech relationships seems to be super common. I am one half of one and know of several others.

I wonder if it is some sort of nerds attracting nerds phenomenon, or just overachievers meeting in college.

Either way I feel your pain with residency and debt.

Re: Tech Jobs, Cheaper Housing: The New Silicon Cities

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My wife is looking at residency programs (she will be an MD). She has an interview at UCSF, but we are not sure we will go--San Francisco is just too expensive. Salary is only $65000 and we have to pay back student loans. I cant't imagine any doctor wanting to train in San Francisco. The city is pricing itself out of existence.

Does that salary include the housing stipend? AFAIK, UCSF residents get a decent stipend to use for housing expenses, on top of their normal salary. May not be enough to swing the balance either way, but it's worth knowing about...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity how do you run up >400k from med school? That number seems higher than what I usually read about.

NYU estimates med school costs at $80k per year [1], for four years. Toss in $80k for undergrad and bam, you're at $400k. [1] http://www.med.nyu.edu/school/admissions/fees-and-financial-...

>> Out of curiosity how do you run up >400k from med school? That number seems higher than what I usually read about.

> NYU estimates med school costs at $80k per year [1], for four years.

Pretty much this. Private med schools are more expensive than public. Plus little things like buying cars, paying rent, etc. add up.

Re: Tech Jobs, Cheaper Housing: The New Silicon Cities

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My wife is looking at residency programs (she will be an MD). She has an interview at UCSF, but we are not sure we will go--San Francisco is just too expensive. Salary is only $65000 and we have to pay back student loans. I cant't imagine any doctor wanting to train in San Francisco. The city is pricing itself out of existence.

Same. Fiancee interviewed at Stanford last year for a surgery fellowship. But it was never high on the list because of the cost. Oddly enough, ended up in Little Rock which is starting to develop a tech market and is crazy cheap to live in (I came from DC).

I'm from Little Rock, though I haven't lived there in a few years. It is crazy cheap, but I'm not sure I would call it a "tech market". The Northwest part of the state is vastly superior to LR in my opinion. You should get up there sometime if you haven't.

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Add them to the list: http://brighton.io/Next_Silicon_Valley

Cuba? Really? Might as well add every city in world to that list.

Actually Cuba is slowly moving to a quasi-free market, at their own slow pace. Sure, there probably won't be any longterm gigs anytime soon (like a couple of decades at least), but its worth keeping an eye for their projects, for the adventure of it if nothing else.

Re: Tech Jobs, Cheaper Housing: The New Silicon Cities

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The wealth that has been created here since the last market crash has been enormous. Given the limited amount of land, the cost for RE has been driven incredibly high. As a result, the cost of everything is also way up.

I'm sure the congestion on 101, the BART, and the bridges is worse than it has ever been.

In the past cycles, people left the city because of costs and moved to the peninsula. Now even the peninsula is full of people hoping to get their kids into schools that are under-funded and have waiting lists.

I cannot predict when that river of wealth will run dry, but I think the companies that benefit from this can no longer afford to fund housing, health, etc. for every single employee they have.

Where are they going to go? They are going to go somewhere else.

It makes sense given that one of the implications of building and amazing global communication network is... that you don't have to be in a certain place in order to participate on it :-)

Also, don't get me started on the construction here in the Bay Area vs. some of the amazing craftsmanship like the one seen in the article.

I think we are going to see a lot more articles like this.

Oh, one other thing. One of the the reasons all these companies started here was because it was relatively cheap! For example, Apple picked Cupertino because everything further north was 'expensive'. Imagine that!

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Interesting they leave out places like Raleigh, or Columbus.

Raleigh is where I'd probably be if I wasn't here in the Bay Area.

There's just nothing to do in Raleigh, unless all you do is drink and go to restaurants.
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