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The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car Industry

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Re: The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car Industry

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> Hotz's initial tweets suggested his move was in response to an inquiry from NHTSA, stating that he "would much rather spend life building amazing tech than dealing with regulators and lawyers," well, this is not some stupid web-app that can't harm anyone even if it tried (except from maybe overheating your smartphone). This can kill people, i can't seriously buy dangerous stuff from somebody that says something lik…

We've already seen what happens there with Soylent

Re: The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car Industry

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> Maybe in a couple months we are going to hear about the imminent release of the Comma Two in Not-America. I seriously doubt they've gone home. There are tons of places where they could starting selling right NOW. Then I'm very thankful for the NHTSA we have in America. I don't want a bunch of half-ass, poorly-engineered self-driving cars on our roads. I use those roads, and so do my family members. While I'm lookin…

The guy that you're replying to seems to have no idea how these things work. I worked for an automotive manufacturer in India (hardly a paragon of virtue in terms of regulatory strictness), and we had rules about even seemingly-inane stuff like the HVAC being able to cool the car down in a certain amount of time, and maintain a given temperature overnight on a cold night etc. You can't just walk in being an arrogant,…

Nowhere, in the ENTIRE WORLD of 7 BILLION PEOPLE could you release something like this?

It doesn't matter if most people reject your idea, you only need a couple cities to say "approved for preliminary testing for a limited number/couple thousand beta testers" to go into Prod. And then when you go into prod you get real life data and can prove that your product really is as awesome as you say it is, THEN you go back to the countries that said no, but this time with more money and actual facts to back you up.

This isn't some super expensive product that is out of reach for the world. This is a thousand dollar conversion kit. If these things were available and I owned a Honda, I would have bought it to just mess around with it instead of buying the HTC Vive that I got last night.

I am sure there are lots of beta customers around the world who would be interested in getting a prelim beta version.

Re: The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car Industry

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> Then I'm very thankful for the NHTSA we have in America. I don't want a bunch of half-ass, poorly-engineered self-driving cars on our roads. I use those roads, and so do my family members. That sounds like you think that other countries would allow "a bunch of half-ass, poorly-engineered self-driving cars on our roads"? As an EU citizen, I can assure you that this is widely off the mark.

I don't think he made any statements about the rest of the world, he just made a statement about his local situation without any implications aimed elsewhere.

Upon second reading, you're correct, I don't know; the comment sounded off to me, but it shouldn't have and I apologise. (with an upvote at least :-)

Re: The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car Industry

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> There were major problems with every demo I saw of the product. Doesn't surprise me, after reading http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-hotz-self-driv... : "Instead of the hundreds of thousands of lines of code found in other self-driving vehicles, Hotz’s software is based on about 2,000 lines." In general I like the approach of using deep-learning instead of complex hardcoded rules (see the article above…

Who brags about 2000 loc when safety is at risk? Seems very immature, and not confidence inspiring.

Actually I think fewer lines of code is less risk. Added complexity creates more points of failure, more possible bugs, more unexpected edge cases. Complexity is not inherently desirable.
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