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Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by chromakode »

jlgaddis wrote: post #117
overcast wrote: post #24

WHAT was Slack thinking writing this?! http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/2/13497766/slack-microsoft-t... Is this the worst ad in the history of advertising? HUGE publicity for Microsoft, with a schoolboy level of condescending, passive aggressive nonsense. Not sure what they were thinking with this one, especially with an opening line doing nothing but praising their competitor. The confidence(arrogance) is astounding.

I've got an evil grin on my face just thinking about Microsoft's response to Slack. I hope they respond and I hope they don't let me down -- there's a prime opportunity here.

They should just respond with a giphy gif.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by sixothree »

agumonkey wrote: post #140
sixothree wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a tremendous amount of development in the healthcare industry right now. 2015 Edition does not specifically name FHIR but is does hint that it may be named in the next iteration. FHIR does seem to have the promise of unification and interoperability.

FHIT seems very ambitious. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR

A good entrance to FHIR is this root page: http://hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/

With Resource List, and Examples good places to dive in a bit.

My favorite little piece of FHIR is that each resource has a maturity level based real world implementations. Eg "FMM1 + the artifact has been tested and successfully exchanged between at least three independently developed systems at a connectathon whose results have been reported to the FHIR Management Group"

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by mahyarm »

krisdol wrote: post #120
artursapek wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Slack's API integrations to be mostly used as distractions from work, but that may just speak to the team more so than Slack

If you don't find its API integrations useful, then why use slack over just about any other communication software? For us, the API integrations are huge. Slack is our one-stop hub for finding out what's happening throughout the company with integrations for PM tools, Monitoring, Alerting, Deployments, Build Systems, Support Emails, AnswerHub, GitHub, etc. And of course, giphys.

It's general chatroom infrastructure where you don't have to be invited to join a chat room. @heres , good mobile clients and so on are part of the package.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by tn13 »

Touche wrote: post #62
EduardoBautista wrote: post #2

When Office 365 came out, I mostly compared the price to Google Apps and didn't really think Office 365 brought that much value. Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Even if you choose the plan for installed Office applications on your computer, the price is still much more attractive than having to get a subscription for every one of the c…

Whats funny is that Google Wave was basically a direct predecessor to these types of apps and they killed it before the technology really had a chance to catch up to the vision.

> they killed it before the technology really had a chance to catch up to the vision

Nah! Google wave would be a massive failure even today. Google simply does not understand other people. Why on earth was Google Wave "invites based" ? Imagine Slack being invite based do you think it would have worked ?

If Google Wave was an enterprise produce Google should have marketed it that way. They did not. I did not even understand WTF it was in first place.

I dont want my boss to see the reply I am drafting for heavens sake. It was like they built id to show how good engieers they were.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by Eridrus »

Yabood wrote: post #110

We're a team of five people all remote and in different time zones. We use Slack, and its been great, but we also use Office 365. Teams with its wide integration with all the different MS products is really cool. What I see missing here is mobile apps, and 3rd party integration. Once those are available we'll have no reason to pay the extra $300 a year for Slack.

This does have mobile apps: https://teams.microsoft.com/downloads

That would have been a huge omission.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by vehementi »

unethical_ban wrote: post #156
mbesto wrote: post #118

This is exactly why Slack is not a defensible product. 1) The UI/interaction/UX can (and obviously will) be replicated, which has been slack's biggest value proposition. 2) There's no "stickiness" for companies. None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. 3rd party bots/integrations are the only thing that really make it sticky for companies. 3) The IP isn't really all…

What do you mean, not defensible? As in, it shouldn't exist, or there's no way it can be profitable long-term? I think it's a great product experience, but as you say, without adding more value, it can be replicated by Zulip/Rocket.Chat/Mattermost/Cisco Spark/Microsoft Team/ you name it.

They meant not profitable long term implicitly as it is easily replicatable

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by WorldMaker »

monkmartinez wrote: post #152
devy wrote: post #32

I really like the fact that Microsoft stresses the security of this product: Broad compliance standards support Data encryption at all times, at-rest and in-transit Multi-factor authentication for enhanced identity protection The only other thing I think they didn't mention in the feature set that Slack is much better is 3rd party API integrations.

I am guessing here, but outside of "developer teams" how many businesses and people give a crap about 3rd party API integrations? They wouldn't really have a use for them unless someone happened to be a hobby programmer on the side or something. I guess MSFT could create a marketplace for said bots/integrations....

Microsoft is definitely building a marketplace for bots and integrations.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by mynameisvlad »

thr0waway1239 wrote: post #139
mynameisvlad wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're about 4 months late on that, since the Windows 10 upgrade offer expired in July.

Really? https://hn.algolia.com/?query=windows%2010%20update&sort=byP...

Yes. When the Windows 10 offer expired, there was no incentive left to advertise it. Windows 7 users that want upgrades now have to go to a store and buy said upgrade.

But don't worry, you can continue parroting that line for another 20 years like "embrace, extend, extinguish". It's not like people make mistakes and learn from them. That never happens.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by maxxxxx »

commandar wrote: post #153
maxxxxx wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in health care and to me the worst thing is that there are a lot of disjointed systems you need to bring together. As a lowly developer I don't feel I am qualified to make a judgment about the security aspects but the price the company has to pay for a breach is huge. So it's the uncertainty knowing whether what you are doing is right or not.

Personally, I tend to have more anxiety over making changes that could potentially kill someone than about data security. :) That said, that's another area where the industry is in pretty bad shape, but that's a far longer rant.

Yeah, killing people is another problem :-). My point is that it's really hard to make judgments whether you are doing well enough be it data breaches or harming people.
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