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Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by desigooner »

sailingparrot wrote: post #19
snarfy wrote: post #15

It doesn't scroll new messages, but instead shows a button "New Messages" that you must click or mouse wheel scroll. We tried using Teams last night for release coordination. This misfeature made it practically unusable. It's a seriously dumb feature. I'm still a bit baffled that someone actually designed and developed it, thinking it was a good idea.

I have been using Teams for a few months now, never had this issue.

This might be elementary but does "Teams" show up in the App launcher? I enabled Teams from O365 settings this morning but I don't see anything pertaining to accessing the teams product.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by mmusc »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #96
ccurrens wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I can tell, it's written in Electron. I assume they did this so that they could share the code base between desktop (win/mac), ios/android/winphone, and web -- keeping the features sets the same on all platforms. VS Code is the same way and that works beautifully on Mac. I expect that same for this. Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft (Azure) but have no relation to Office or Microsoft Teams.

Electron is complete shit, especially for long running processes. Might as well use the browser version.

seems to be working just fine for visual studio code

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by KayL »

aarpmcgee wrote: post #5

Seems like a shame that it is bundled with the overhead of Office 365. Makes Slack feel like a lighter-weight option.

Yeah. And missing a free plan that couldn't enlarge the user base. You have to pay for every short-term contractor. It's not a good deal.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by basch »

TorKlingberg wrote: post #104

How does this relate to Skype for Business (previously Lync)? Is it a update and rebrand of group chat, or something separate?

if you start a private chat with a user, and they have never logged into Teams, it sends them a Skype for Business message. So I can be using Teams and they can still be using S4B

the team chats are threaded with embedded documents, likes, emojis etc

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by cscharenberg »

commandar wrote: post #93
agumonkey wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you tell us what desires you have and what issues the healthcare industry is hitting with computer based tech ? As an ex computer fanatics I wanted to make medicine all digital and smooth (naive), I see it's not there, yet I'm not in Health so I have no idea what are the reasons. I expect "world chaos" to be part of them.

If I'm understanding your question correctly, the single biggest obstacle in healthcare informatics today is interoperability. The industry grew up in a pretty ad hoc way and the result is that closed-off silos of data are pretty much the norm; every vendor has their own ideas about how data should be handled, and getting different systems talking to each other is a full-time job (my job, coincidentally). HITECH and…

I agree. Integration is exceedingly complex. Data is stored and interpreted differently in every system, even if they share the same EMR, due to configuration differences in workflow, data setup, software versions, etc.

You can't exchange data without thoroughly understanding the clinic workflows that generated it or will be using it. It's all time-consuming and hard.

I work on a patient portal consuming data from the EMR, and even that is tremendously complicated to present medical data safely and correctly to a person.

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Sibling comment mentioned wanting to work in Health IT. The big market problem in healthcare is small companies doing good innovation (usable patient-side workflows, modern clinical tools, shiny things) running into the consolidated, massive EMR systems. The first question when they approach a healthcare system will be "Are you integrated with Epic/Cerner/whatever?" and if not, they will be sent away. Or be ready to embark on a very long, slow process and integrate deeply into workflows, data APIs, etc.

When a system consolidates their EMR (driven by real needs but also Meaningful Use incentives), it forces standardization and special one-offs become much harder. Getting a doctor interested in using a new device or software means working within the whole EMR - the staff doesn't have the time or leeway to go use tools that don't integrate, just because a doctor really wants it. That doctor needs to align large groups, get agreement, and it's going to take a lot of time and money.

It all comes down to interoperability/integration. Building cool stuff in healthcare is really easy since most of the tech in use is outdated and slow moving. But interoperability - required to sell into healthcare systems - is really, really tough.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by douche »

jpalmer wrote: post #42
snarfy wrote: post #15

It doesn't scroll new messages, but instead shows a button "New Messages" that you must click or mouse wheel scroll. We tried using Teams last night for release coordination. This misfeature made it practically unusable. It's a seriously dumb feature. I'm still a bit baffled that someone actually designed and developed it, thinking it was a good idea.

Presumably this works exactly like Skype. All new messages are scrolled but if you manually scroll up to read old messages you'll get a button for "new message" that you must click on to resume. Which makes sense in that you don't want the screen to automatically advance if you are manually scrolling for old messages.

No, they broke this in one of the more recent updates. It never scrolls to the bottom once you get more than one window full of messages automatically anymore.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by mhermher »

3pt14159 wrote: post #31
overcast wrote: post #24

WHAT was Slack thinking writing this?! http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/2/13497766/slack-microsoft-t... Is this the worst ad in the history of advertising? HUGE publicity for Microsoft, with a schoolboy level of condescending, passive aggressive nonsense. Not sure what they were thinking with this one, especially with an opening line doing nothing but praising their competitor. The confidence(arrogance) is astounding.

They are copying Apple [1]. It's supposed to demonstrate strength, since most competitors try to pretend that the competition doesn't exist. To me it always came off as really dumb and self-important in the most cringing of ways. [1] http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/jobs-apple-welco...

Off topic note here: Apple forecasts a "logarithmic leap". I have never heard that term. Logarithmic growth is sub linear and doesn't seem like something akin to a leap. Usually you would go with "exponential". Just seemed like odd wording.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by mercer »

basch wrote: post #18
andrewla wrote: post #8

The cheapest plan for Office 365 that includes this is the $5/user/month, which undercuts Slack's pricing. It also includes a bunch of other stuff that I'm far less excited about; I wish they had gone with a more a la carte approach. I'm not confident that I'll be able to easily integrate this with the identities that I routinely use. Also, it seems like an unwieldy name -- "I'll 'team' that to you", or "let's discus…

https://stratechery.com/2016/oracles-cloudy-future/ >Consider your typical Chief Information Officer in the pre-Cloud era: for various reasons she has bought in to some aspect of the Microsoft stack (likely Exchange). So, in order to support Exchange, the CIO must obviously buy Windows Server. And Windows Server includes Active Directory, so obviously that will be the identity service. However, now that the CIO has p…

I once worked for a very big company that decided to use Microsoft SharePoint to unify all the forms of communication that had developed over the years. They hired a Microsoft consultant to help them out and I was basically her assistant during the entire process. This consultant was pretty expensive.

What I remember most is that she acted more like a salesperson than an actual help at getting SharePoint working in the company. She'd relentlessly suggest features or solutions that happened to require a newer version SharePoint, and obviously there were all sorts of other Microsoft solutions that would ease the company's pains.

It seems like a very clever approach, but I couldn't help but hate the role she had, and it made me want to avoid Microsoft at all cost... or at least until I'm not the one affected by the decisions she pushed the company towards, I guess.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by thr0waway1239 »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #116
thr0waway1239 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft's support, in contrast, is outstanding you see. As a bonus for sticking with them, you will even get an upgrade of your perfectly functional Windows 7 computer at some unspecified point in time based on checking a box with manipulative exploding offers, and be left with a large brick (voila! magic!).

You're about 4 months late on that, since the Windows 10 upgrade offer expired in July.

Really?

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=windows%2010%20update&sort=byP...

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by agumonkey »

sixothree wrote: post #124
agumonkey wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you tell us what desires you have and what issues the healthcare industry is hitting with computer based tech ? As an ex computer fanatics I wanted to make medicine all digital and smooth (naive), I see it's not there, yet I'm not in Health so I have no idea what are the reasons. I expect "world chaos" to be part of them.

There is a tremendous amount of development in the healthcare industry right now. 2015 Edition does not specifically name FHIR but is does hint that it may be named in the next iteration. FHIR does seem to have the promise of unification and interoperability.

FHIT seems very ambitious.

http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR

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