Sonder E-Ink Keyboard • Hacker News Board

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by golergka » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:16 PM UTC

Optimus has been released 9 years ago.

http://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by ape4 » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:28 PM UTC

Might be good for Asian languages or mathematical symbols.

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by ihuman » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:33 PM UTC

maxpert wrote: post #2

I so much wish Apple would have integrated E-Ink in their keyboard keys. I was kinda hoping from the leaks it to be true but sad :( Instead of removing function bar and putting in a stupid LCD this would have made more sense. If they were dying to put in an Apple watch display in keyboard they could have done it on trackpad! Disclaimer: Despite all this Macbook remains my fav laptop, no other laptop including surface…

> LCD

Its actually OLED.

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:33 PM UTC

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Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by jws » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

feketegy wrote: post #6

maxpert wrote: post #2

I so much wish Apple would have integrated E-Ink in their keyboard keys. I was kinda hoping from the leaks it to be true but sad :( Instead of removing function bar and putting in a stupid LCD this would have made more sense. If they were dying to put in an Apple watch display in keyboard they could have done it on trackpad! Disclaimer: Despite all this Macbook remains my fav laptop, no other laptop including surface…

What integrated experience when you can't even connect your iPhone to your Mac without an adapter?

Are we pretending that Apple doesn't sell USB-C to Lightning cables?

For a special bonus you no longer have to carry two AC adapters, your USB-C to Lightning cable goes into the same AC adapter as your laptop if you wish.

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by anotheryou » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:49 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #31

anotheryou wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's fast enough to respond to modifier keys.

That would be amazing for teaching vim! I've been using vim for a decade and I'm always learning new things about it. A modal keyboard would be incredibly instructive.

my thinking :) I'm currently on my 2nd attempt to learn some vim :)

It would need a good api, too if you want to react to chained keystrokes or application states/modes.

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by nv-vn » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:53 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #34

Too bad the fn/ctrl/alt/cmd keys are fixed. I'd love a keyboard that can seamlessly switch between Windows/OS X mode...

Ironically, the most important keys to change have been seemingly ignored here.

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 5:55 PM UTC

persimmon_b wrote: post #20

Can't help but feel like people are only thinking about programming with this. For someone who speaks multiple languages, being able to switch between configurations as easily as you can on a phone seems like it would be super useful.

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Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by dylanz » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 6:00 PM UTC

iheartmemcache wrote: post #42

monk_e_boy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it'd be cool for programming, I have RSI and find using the shift key + another key painful. I also rarely use the number keys above the letters (I used num pad) so changing all those keys to the shit_key equivalent would be neat. And rearranging some of other keys would be great. And don't get me started on games, oooooh, how often to I buy a new game and forget what 'm' does? Knife? Grenade? Pickaxe?

Firstly: RSI is no joke - if you're experiencing pain, there's a non-zero chance it'll develop into a serious medical condition. (At MIT's Media Lab, someone's RSI got so bad he couldn't type at all and had to invent an interface using vocal phonemes to encode common OS actions/lexical keywords to control his OS (OS X) / editor (emacs) / language of choice (python)). If you feel even the slightest bit of pain, that's…

Great post and an important disclaimer... take RSI seriously. I went the Kinesis route and switched to Dvorak (after taking a week off from typing) and I've never had a problem since (I ditched the Kinesis after a couple months and went back to my laptops keyboard).

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Post by IgorPartola » Sun, Oct 30, 2016, 6:00 PM UTC

Hmm. The keys with the transparent cap actually don't look great to me. Also, why do we keep losing the number pad? I use it quite a bit, and it's one of the main reasons to use a dedicated keyboard rather than the built-in one.

Also, I really want to like Bluetooth. Built-in generic connectivity! Yet, at least once a day I have to reset a connection between my MacBook and a peripheral, or my phone and a peripheral. Touchpad batteries died and need to be replaced? Yeah, that's a reboot. Headphones won't connect? Re-pair. I hate that my Logitech keyboard comes with a dongle, but it works and I get why they included it.