I think this is long past due.
For some background. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/opinion/how-airbnb-can-fig...
General questions about the Airbnb Community Commitment
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#22Throwaway for obvious reasons. I discriminate against people based on their national origin AMA.
Uh, OK, which nations and why?
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#23Throwaway for obvious reasons. I discriminate against people based on their national origin AMA.
Give some examples.
I rent two studios in Paris. And I always decline requests coming from people that come from my country or neighboring ones (Tunisia, Morroco) unless they have stellar reviews. That includes people who were born in France but have ancestry from those countries (which is pretty easy to guess).
That's because a) past history w. poor experiences b) I know too well they become overconfident when they see you are from there too c) generally speaking, they left my property in pretty bad state, with stuff that are broken or very dirty.
Oh and they always ask you if you do the ramadan and stuff like that. I will continue to do so and Airbnb has no way to prevent me from doing that.
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#24I don't use Airbnb and most likely never will. However, let's say for argument sake I do want to rent my extra bedroom out. What if I don't want rent to some weirdo crust punk? I wouldn't feel like my children are safe. I would probably only rent out to single professionals only. I guess Airbnb is not a good fit for hypothetical people like me.
I wouldn't worry. The weirdo crust punk most likely has no money. They are used to being stereotyped, and told No.
Just be careful when steping over them while they are sleeping on your sidewalk. Tell little Jenny, "It's o.k. to spit on them while they're sleeping. They're just weirdos."
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#25People discriminate every day. I discriminate against restaurants and babysitters and businesses all the time. Sometimes those discriminations are because of a feeling. Sometimes they are are based on my internal biases. Sometimes I disagree with the choices a business has made and if affects whether or not I do business with them. Why do we make such a big deal about "discrimination?" It's built into who we are as p…
I think it's about scale. If you as a single individual discriminate, no big deal. If a nation or a large corporation discriminates, it causes serious problems.
Also, it's somewhat OK to discriminate against behavior that can be changed. So businesses are OK to be discriminated against, they are after all human creation. But we shouldn't discriminate on the basis of race or sex or ethnicity, because these are impossible to change.
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#26Throwaway for obvious reasons. I discriminate against people based on their national origin AMA.
Uh, OK, which nations and why?
Let's say there is three levels:
0 - I look at your profile with positive a priori (USA, China, Russia - best of the best are Japanese and Koreans)
1 - I look at your profile with a prejudiced view, I will default on declining your request (Algeria, Tunisia, Maroc and the whole of North-Africa; Germans accessarily)
2 - There is no way. I auto-decline. (France but ancestry from North-Africa) (unless you got stellar reviews and don't look like you're muslim anymore).
- Why?: I replied to that in another comment but basically a mix of past bad experience, of knowing the culture and mainstream mindset of the people of those countries and growing tired of getting asked intrusive questions about if I practice islam.
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#27People discriminate every day. I discriminate against restaurants and babysitters and businesses all the time. Sometimes those discriminations are because of a feeling. Sometimes they are are based on my internal biases. Sometimes I disagree with the choices a business has made and if affects whether or not I do business with them. Why do we make such a big deal about "discrimination?" It's built into who we are as p…
One idea/theory/conspiracy that I have is explained in this Yuri Bezmenov "Brainwashing a nation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0 .
It says that you fund counter-culture movements as much as possible for them to go completely full-scale. Examples:
Black lives matter (which was a honest one at first) then went full kamikaze. Let's bring 1M+ syrians, what could go wrong (when Albania was in ~civil-unrest in 1997 all borders closed).
Multiculturalism is ok friend. All cultures are equal (they're not, many suck, like roma example that I gave in another comment).
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you think this would be against the agreement? Is crust a religion? An disability? "Dirty" isn't a protected class. I've personally experienced that some hosts refuse to rent to unmarried couples. It was inconvenient and silly, but perfectly legal and nearly harmless (unless their actual problem was that only one of us was white, but who can say).
The problem is this "sharing economy" facade. You have a right to pick and choose who you want in your home, even if you don't like LGBT folks, African Americans, caucassions, whatever. But the sharing economy isn't about sharing. It's about business platforms that monetize slack capacity of different resources. So you're operating a business now (yes, really). And a business can't discriminate against a protected cl…
You can legally discriminate in some categories in shared living situations in many places although. You can legally say you want only female or male roommates, or no couples and so on. And you can do it for money, it doesn't matter if your renting or own the place.
If you are renting a place outright, then you cannot.
So in that aspect you are allowed to do that.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Give some examples.
I rent two studios in Paris. And I always decline requests coming from people that come from my country or neighboring ones (Tunisia, Morroco) unless they have stellar reviews. That includes people who were born in France but have ancestry from those countries (which is pretty easy to guess). That's because a) past history w. poor experiences b) I know too well they become overconfident when they see you are from the…
I'm totally ignorant. What does "do the ramadan" entail for you?
Can you just continue to refuse to rent to Tunisians and Moroccans? Does AirBnB have any way to detect that?
Does AirBnB have recourse against guests who leave the apartment trashed? Insurance, etc.? I wouldn't rent to people who would trash my place, either.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is this "sharing economy" facade. You have a right to pick and choose who you want in your home, even if you don't like LGBT folks, African Americans, caucassions, whatever. But the sharing economy isn't about sharing. It's about business platforms that monetize slack capacity of different resources. So you're operating a business now (yes, really). And a business can't discriminate against a protected cl…
You can legally discriminate in some categories in shared living situations in many places although. You can legally say you want only female or male roommates, or no couples and so on. And you can do it for money, it doesn't matter if your renting or own the place. If you are renting a place outright, then you cannot. So in that aspect you are allowed to do that.
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