White people continue trying to speak for minorities, there's more to us than just black people you know, you can be skeptical for your safety if that's all the information you have.
General questions about the Airbnb Community Commitment
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#12People discriminate every day. I discriminate against restaurants and babysitters and businesses all the time. Sometimes those discriminations are because of a feeling. Sometimes they are are based on my internal biases. Sometimes I disagree with the choices a business has made and if affects whether or not I do business with them.
Why do we make such a big deal about "discrimination?" It's built into who we are as people.
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#15In a recent thread (too lazy to link), many users agreed that roma people ~suck in ~europe (because they keep to themselfes and their own culture, which sucks, and they don't integrate). I probably would discriminate against one if I was renting my "thing". It's time for airbnb(github/twitter too) to start dying I think.
Edit: I welcome you to show your counter examples.
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#16> I agree to treat everyone in the Airbnb community—regardless of their race, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, or age—with respect, and without judgment or bias. This isn't really "non discrimination", this is a vague non binding statement. The FAQ doesn't even says what happens when that "commitment" is broken. Just that you have to accept it. So the title h…
Did you just not read two paragraphs below that where it says "What if I decline the commitment?", or do you just think it's pertinent for some reason? Seems pretty clear: You can't discriminate, if you do we terminate your account at our discretion. Edit: I read the question only in the narrow sense of "what if you refuse to accept the new policy" v.s. "what if you break the policy once you accept it?". The answer t…
> "What if I decline the commitment?",
It doesn't explain what happens if one accepts the commitment and still discriminates.
> Seems pretty clear: You can't discriminate, if you do we terminate your account at our discretion.
That's not what the text says. The text basically says :
"If you don't answer Yes to the commitment, we will terminates your account".
It doesn't say
"if you actually do discriminate we will terminates your account"
Seems pretty clear what that FAQ doesn't say. It says nothing about what Airbnb will do if an host or guest discriminates.
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#17I don't use Airbnb and most likely never will. However, let's say for argument sake I do want to rent my extra bedroom out. What if I don't want rent to some weirdo crust punk? I wouldn't feel like my children are safe. I would probably only rent out to single professionals only. I guess Airbnb is not a good fit for hypothetical people like me.
What makes you think this would be against the agreement? Is crust a religion? An disability? "Dirty" isn't a protected class.
I've personally experienced that some hosts refuse to rent to unmarried couples. It was inconvenient and silly, but perfectly legal and nearly harmless (unless their actual problem was that only one of us was white, but who can say).
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#18What you've got here is your typical highly privileged founders born into wealth running with the wind at their back.
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#19Throwaway for obvious reasons. I discriminate against people based on their national origin AMA.
Give some examples.
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#20I don't use Airbnb and most likely never will. However, let's say for argument sake I do want to rent my extra bedroom out. What if I don't want rent to some weirdo crust punk? I wouldn't feel like my children are safe. I would probably only rent out to single professionals only. I guess Airbnb is not a good fit for hypothetical people like me.
What makes you think this would be against the agreement? Is crust a religion? An disability? "Dirty" isn't a protected class. I've personally experienced that some hosts refuse to rent to unmarried couples. It was inconvenient and silly, but perfectly legal and nearly harmless (unless their actual problem was that only one of us was white, but who can say).
The problem is this "sharing economy" facade.
You have a right to pick and choose who you want in your home, even if you don't like LGBT folks, African Americans, caucassions, whatever.
But the sharing economy isn't about sharing. It's about business platforms that monetize slack capacity of different resources.
So you're operating a business now (yes, really). And a business can't discriminate against a protected class. And AirBnB wants to portray an aura of community, so instead of saying "you can't legally discriminate; don't or we'll kick you off the platform" it's the proverbial "can we not all get along?; you must to continue on the platform"
Everyone will agree to this except a few folks who want to make a point, and those people who were discriminating before will continue to do so.
Silicon Valley needs to learn that scolding, lynching, patronizing people online isn't going to fix systemic socioeconomic issues. Those take decades to show positive change, and require far more effort than the community outreach resources of a few companies in the tech industry.
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My comment should've been more specific. In a non-business setting, you can pick and choose who is in your home. Not when renting the entire premises out to someone. AirBnB tries to portray its transactions as community when it's really just a business, with the rules and regs that go with that (anti-discrimination).