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Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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14" Razer Blade 1060, grab a dbrand matte skin to cover the hideous Razer logo. No problems with Ubuntu 16.10 currently installed. Also have a 13" Dell XPS dev edition used for specific work. It's a nice system as well. The Razer def has more power if you want a full replacement.

Any idea on battery life? Can't find anything printed about it.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seconded. I have this running xubuntu and all is fine with the world. My only complaint is the limited ram.

Apparently there are a lot of complains on quality, as in "quality control" before shipping to people doesn't exist, if you are lucky, you're fine, if not, you'll need to return, is that true?

Could be true. I had no problem with mine.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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Best developer laptop is a Dell Precision 5510. Up to 32GB ram, thinner and lighter than a Macbook, SSD that does >1.5GB/sec, and has a docking station.

Half of my my company i.e. ~2000 developers and ~2000 other associates switched to the dell 5510(dell xps 15) this year and its absolutely amazing. Its carbon fiber !!!! 32GB ram, 512 SSD. Amazing edge to edge display. So far the best trackpad (after apple) with gesture controls. Superb laptop! Definitely a MBP replacement. I am not a big Windows fan but with the recent windows 10 update i am warming up to it. I hope Microsoft will soon support Linux completely within windows.

I wish there was a well funded linux operating system like the macOS or whatever so that we all could switch over from MBPs. Apple has been mocking us for the past few years with its lame products and specs and extremely high prices.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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Half of my my company i.e. ~2000 developers and ~2000 other associates switched to the dell 5510(dell xps 15) this year and its absolutely amazing. Its carbon fiber !!!! 32GB ram, 512 SSD. Amazing edge to edge display. So far the best trackpad (after apple) with gesture controls. Superb laptop! Definitely a MBP replacement. I am not a big Windows fan but with the recent windows 10 update i am warming up to it. I hope Microsoft will soon support Linux completely within windows.

I wish there was a well funded linux operating system like the macOS or whatever so that we all could switch over from MBPs. Apple has been mocking us for the past few years with its lame products and specs and extremely high prices.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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Yes, I've been using a Retina MacBook Pro 13" (early 15) and 15" (mid 15) and just picked up the xps 13 9350 with iris pro. There are definitely some quality control issues but once you get a working model with no faults (I had one that wouldn't reboot and had terrible coil whine, one that had loose trackpad and yellow tint on screen but this could also be because of Amazon's shitty packaging where the laptop was in…

> once you get a working model with no faults (I had one that wouldn't reboot and had terrible coil whine, one that had loose trackpad and yellow tint on screen I never understood how people can deal with multiple rounds of RMAing (or whatever) a defective product and still turn around and recommend it to other people. If a company can't consistently deliver their products intact and functional, why should I waste ho…

well let's not get into how bad Apple screws customers when it does so. I had the macbook (was it '12?) that had the gpu death issue - apple denied that the issue was a defect until a class action was brought against them; I was out at-least a thousand dollars as I had to toss the unit because apple wanted me to pay for the repairs which cost almost as much as a new unit in my country. Did I mention I faced the same bullshit with iPhone 4? Maybe I was just holding it wrong.

And as I said, `but this could also be because of Amazon's shitty packaging where the laptop was in a box with only some brown paper crumpled in` - I'm not even sure if the issue was because of improper shipping or factory defect. If you're all that worried about wasting your time, go to the nearest retail store and test your unit as you buy it.

I also forgot to mention, I bought the defective models through Amazon Warehouse Deals - so it could very well have been a return due to the said defects.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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Yes, I've been using a Retina MacBook Pro 13" (early 15) and 15" (mid 15) and just picked up the xps 13 9350 with iris pro. There are definitely some quality control issues but once you get a working model with no faults (I had one that wouldn't reboot and had terrible coil whine, one that had loose trackpad and yellow tint on screen but this could also be because of Amazon's shitty packaging where the laptop was in…

> xps 13 9350 with iris pro Do you mean Iris Graphics 540? I think Iris Pro Graphics 550 included on-chip eDRAM and isn't available on any of their 15W Skylake CPUs, it's a 28W only part.

Oh, yes. Thanks for the correction.

I thought only Pro SKUs get EDRAM but turns out I was wrong.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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Yes, I've been using a Retina MacBook Pro 13" (early 15) and 15" (mid 15) and just picked up the xps 13 9350 with iris pro. There are definitely some quality control issues but once you get a working model with no faults (I had one that wouldn't reboot and had terrible coil whine, one that had loose trackpad and yellow tint on screen but this could also be because of Amazon's shitty packaging where the laptop was in…

> so does OS X if you can replace the wifi card Please tell us more! What card am I supposed to replace it with, and is it anything involving soldering or just sockets and switches?

The broadcomm DW1560 is the currently recommended card.

There are numerous guides on replacing the wifi card in the dell, ifixit has guides. And because this isn't apple, the laptop has a upgrade/repair/owner's manual (online).

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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I'd love to see some real competition with macbooks but I haven't seen anything close yet... Alternatives do exist but they are still very expensive... I mean really, they are bloody expensive. When I'm thinking about putting this kind of money on the table, I just go to apple store, no? Why on earth there's no startup which just puts together linux laptops? I'm sure you can grab Chinese/Taiwanese/Korean whitelabelis…

> Why on earth there's no startup which just puts together linux laptops?

Do System76 or ZaReason count? They even have non-Windows super keys. (Ubuntu logo or Tux, respectively)

I have no experience with their laptops, but I have a System76 desktop, and have no complaints.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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I got a Dell XPS 15, the 9550 edition. Before purchasing I was scared of the bad stability reviews it had when it was release. However Dell treats it with updated drivers regularly, and with latest drivers it works great. It can even handle 3D shooter without thermal throtteling etc. I use it as a developer machine with Windows 10.

Just be careful with the Dell Thunderbold 3 TB15 dock (not sold any more I think). I got one, and with the latest drivers it works, but has some quirks. Also be careful to sort out complaints about the XPS in the net: may have problems using the dock, not with the laptop itself.

And the touchpad is great by the way.

Re: Ask HN: Is Dell XPS Developer Edition a Good Replacement of Macbook Pro?

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No. I had the Dell XPS 15 9550 and there were several issues.

• Trackpad much worse than on a Mac

• Coil whine

• Bad fan control means it was sometimes noisy in near-idle contitions (though in idle it was very silent)

• there were some flicker issues with the GPU (might have been resolved though)

• one key was bouncy, meaning it sometimes triggered twice

• it woke up from sleep randomly, sometimes while in my bag, often completely emptying the battery

In the beginning it also crashed very often, however this was resolved with an update.

So all in all the quality wasn't on the level of a Mac.

And I wouldn't even start speaking about the OS. If you're used to macOS, it's still such a day and night difference.

Connecting a normal low dpi display to the 9550 with HIDPI display lead to so many annoyances with Windows and all the programs that won't support this for the years to come. I'd barely consider it useful. Although the display itself was quite nice.

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