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Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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If the typical user of a "pro" laptop doesn't need more than 16 gb then the typical user isn't a pro.

What exactly do you think "pro" means?

Expensive

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Your argument consists of "people who don't work like I do are wrong" and you imply they should pay the price... for using a key that's been ubiquitous since the beginning of computing time.

You could say the same thing for removing serial ports, or floppy drives, or CD drives. People used them when Apple got rid of them. People whined. Apple still did it. We don't miss them anymore. Its possible Apple could go too far, but I don't think its fair to say Apple did anything wrong _yet_. They're always early on removing this stuff, but they've never been wrong. Literally never.

> They're always early on removing this stuff, but they've never been wrong. Literally never.

"Technology X will be obsolete at some point in the future" is almost tautologically true. They could remove the screens and the keyboards from their laptops today, and that might be a good idea in 50 years time when we're all using direct-brain interfaces, but I would still describe that as being wrong today.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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I wish they'd just replaced 2 thunderbolt ports and magsave with 3 usb-c ports (leaving two usb, a hdmi port and sd card reader), made the screen matte, gave me 32gb and a fanless design.

Agree, save for the matte screen. That plus at least a newer chipset would have been perfect. But nope.

Well, matte screens should always be optional, people are divided over the issue.

For me, right now the screens appear like mirrors, if I have anything behind me besides a wall then I constantly adjust the angle of the laptop to minimize reflections.

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I'm okay with the port situation--there is an elegance to the 4 completely symmetrical USB-C ports. Also super excited to ditch Magsafe. It'll be awesome to be able to just replace a USB-C charger cable instead of the whole brick when it inevitably frays. I'm bummed out about the huge reduction in battery capacity. The 13" model loses 1/3, and the 15" loses 1/4. With the addition of the touch bar, this will probably…

I'm wondering if the lack of a 32gb option is due to battery life marketing constraints. Double the RAM is going to have a higher power draw during operation as well as standby.

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Fanless design means performance is seriously crippled. The fact that the fanless MacBook works at all is impressive.

Well, finally a worthwhile problem for Apple to solve. They're pretty good at solving engineering issues, they've mostly been focussed on making shit thinner though.

I wonder how much thinner helps with heat dissipation?

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>Why not just make the iPhone 7 USB-C instead? It's too thick going forward. It's already too thick for the Pencil.

It's ridiculous that the stylus needs a port.

Ok, well USB C is too thick for the AppleTV remote too.

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It's pretty bad. We use YubiKeys a lot, and there are no ports for them. So sad. Also: Magsafe is great (it's saved my bacon a few times). Gone. ESC key, gone. Don't know about the keyboard yet, but everything I've read doesn't point to it being decent. Probably not buying this generation of MacBooks. Might just bite the bullet and finally go to Linux on some decent hardware. So, what's a decent laptop for running Li…

I really don't understand why everybody seems to think the Escape key is so important. I almost never hit mine, and since the Touch Bar has a virtual escape key, I don't really see the problem. The best I can figure is everybody complaining is a Vim user, but if you're a Vim user I don't know why you haven't already replaced the cumbersome Escape key with something easier, like binding `jk`, or binding Caps Lock to C…

Esc closes dialogs.

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It's funny how Americans (USA) use the freedom as in this situation "they are necessary connections that offer you freedom" but don't even realize that's the same " freedom " they are stuck in the Imperial system; lack of standardization. I for once welcome these changes; if companies were not brave enough to let go of old ports to standarize the USB we'd be stuck in the old days with dozens of dongles. At the speed…

Its not an all or nothing thing. Apple could provide at least one "old-style" usb for legacy devices and would alleviate a lot of pain.

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I'll add my reply from another thread( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12807826 ): I have been using the Dell Developer Edition (Precision 5510) since April. There were a few hiccups because of some driver issues related to their USB-C dock (Correct me if i'm wrong, but I guess this problem was not limited to just their linux laptop?) Ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 things have been pretty smooth. I believe…

Have they fixed the coil whine[0] issues with them? From what I've seen, a lot of Dell laptops have this issue. I have really sensitive hearing and high-pitched sounds like this drive me crazy. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/3zau8b/coil_whine_pro...

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Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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post #46

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I really don't understand why everybody seems to think the Escape key is so important. I almost never hit mine, and since the Touch Bar has a virtual escape key, I don't really see the problem. The best I can figure is everybody complaining is a Vim user, but if you're a Vim user I don't know why you haven't already replaced the cumbersome Escape key with something easier, like binding `jk`, or binding Caps Lock to C…

Esc closes dialogs.

It doesn't have to be a physical key to do that. The Touch Bar still has a virtual Esc key.
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