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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by rwhitman »

ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I get the sense that there is a movement inside Apple right now to abandon the professional market. Everything they've released lately for pros has been half-hearted at best. I'm getting increasingly concerned that one day soon they will drop Mac OS products altogether and just leave us to the wolves

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by toufka »

lostgame wrote: post #193
huac wrote: post #134

I'm very sad that the MagSafe connectors will be gone. It's one of my favorite parts of the Mac ecosystem, and a huge advantage.

Why? Why? Why? Are they actively trying to piss people off by removing key features? What is the advantage of this?

The new charging mode is way cheaper for them, and for their users. And way more convenient too. I really like the magnetic part of MagSafe, but everything after that sucks. The wire the MagSafe uses is really susceptible to being frayed at both of its attachment points, and the power brick itself is expensive (>$100). It looks like the new power brick thing is similar to an iPhone's, and uses a detachable USB-C cable. I presume the cable and the bricks will become fairly commonplace. And that means way less work in the long run.

I do like the magnetic grasp though.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by tensor »

dasmoth wrote: post #369
milankragujevic wrote: post #337

DAAAMN what a disappointment. No Mac Mini, no iMac... Well, might as well not buy a new computer afterall... :S

I think Apple are looking to kill off desktops within a few years now. If you watched the event, they had a sequence showing a "pro workstation" with a laptop taking the "keyboard position on the desk" plus external monitors and thunderbolt storage. That's where they're heading...

That was quite a silly setup. The keyboard screen blocked the monitors and you have a break in the monitors right in the middle where you look most often. I currently use a MBP with an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

It's ok, but with only 16gb of ram and no nvidia chips it's not exactly a good workstation. Professionals are now forced to have a second computer with a lot of ram and GPUs for computing. Very much not ideal.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by djrogers »

ROFISH wrote: post #225

16GB RAM max, DP1.2 (so no 5k display support), worthless Touch Bar when I use my current MBP dual monitor with the lid closed. Pass. Sadly I really wanted something better since I'm on an old 2012 MBP that badly needs an upgrade but I'm not dropping $1500+ for something that doesn't support 32GB and 5k displays.

Not only does it have 5k display support, but it supports two of them in addition to the internal display:

-- Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display at millions of colors and:

Up to two displays with 5120-by-2880 resolution at 60Hz at over a billion colors Up to four displays with 4096-by-2304 resolution at 60Hz at over a billion colors --

[1]http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by andyfleming »

Osmium wrote: post #336

Would be curious to know if they tested the Touch Bar below the keyboard instead of above it. I wonder if, as the concept further evolves, the bar might become larger or migrate locations. The comparisons they made to the original PowerBook were interesting, in that it really showed how constant incremental changes really add up in the long term. Edit: Another possibility is to integrate an OLED display into the trac…

I imagine you would accidentally touch it too often it if it were below the keyboard.

I wish they would have put it above the normal esc/f-key row and left it.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by oldmanjay »

npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> Also, Panos Panay sounds like a genuine, authentic, passionate and knowledgeable whereas Jony Ive sounds like an Evangelical designer who feels "fake". I don't know how to explain it.

It's called "bias"

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by dguaraglia »

massysett wrote: post #449
dguaraglia wrote: post #410

As a heavy Vim user, this might be my last Apple development machine. I can always remap Caps Lock to Esc, but years of muscle memory > a flashy feature I have little use for. There's nothing I'd pay extra for in this new machine: touchbar is a meh, biometric authentication has been around since ~2005, the hardware specs are finally catching up with what everyone else has been shipping for a couple years, the new key…

Linux is not bad. But nobody is making decent Linux hardware, and the instant you slap Linux onto a Windows machine, battery life plummets. My days buying Windows machines and struggling to get Linux on them are over. I'd rather buy a Mac and get a Unix I can use without having to install it. Is anyone actually selling a decent preinstalled Linux laptop? If I really wanted to use Linux I would rather buy a Windows la…

My last try was Fedora and Mint on last years Dell XPS 13. Battery life was fine (comparable to my MBP) but the experience when plugging in my low-DPI destkop monitor was terrible. Supposedly the new Wayland-based distros provide a better story for that.

Other than that Gnome3 finally behaves nicely across the board. Still a lot of inconsistencies between applications (QT-based programs look like crap on Gnome and vice-versa, and TK programs look like crap everywhere) but all in all the experience was way better than in 2011 which was the last year I used Linux as my base OS.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #248

So, really, new touchbar aside, the MBP doesn't really bring much to the table at all, does it? It's a device for pros... who already have the keyboard shortcuts for the same actions the touchbar provides long since memorized. I thought this was supposed to be a MacBookPro event - but it seems like it should be called the Apple touchbar event, really. I personally found the suggestion that taking my fingers away from…

> an awkward joke about no one using IBM mainframes any more...

I was watching the video on my MBPr, while literally writing a C# program on my work Dell M6800 to automate running programs and fetching the resulting data... from a mainframe... by embedding a 3270 emulator.

:-/

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