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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by rymate1234 »

ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I dunno, the base model has two Thunderbolt 3 / USB type C ports, and the model with the touch bar has 4 of these ports. All models appear to have the headphone jack. It might only be two ports on the base model, but it's ports that are significantly more versatile than standard USB.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Avenger42 »

dougbarrett wrote: post #180
ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

The Macbook Pro they're boasting as a possible replacement for the Air has the new key tech which they mentioned in the keynote as having more travel distance, it keeps the old FN keys, and it has two thunderbolt ports. So yes, changing the ports isn't ideal and only having one to use to plug in peripherals which will most likely mean a hub is required is a bit of a pain, but the low end doesn't even include the touc…

The new keyboard has less key travel, not more. From the Macbook page:

> So we designed a unique butterfly mechanism, which is wider than the scissor mechanism and has a single assembly made from a stiffer material — allowing for a more stable, responsive key that takes up less vertical space.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by kylec »

ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

You must have missed the fact that you can type emojis on the touch bar

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by rabboRubble »

coldtea wrote: post #133
blocke wrote: post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

> The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? That's the wrong way to think of it. It's not a keyboard, it's an adaptive toolbar. And it's close to what professionals in several industries pay handsomely for -- control surfaces, only this one is also adaptive. > I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10…

I have something like a touch bar on my Windows laptop. The main problem I have with it is that I touch it without knowing I have. Many a time I've gone down a rabbit hole of WIFI network issues to only discover that I've accidentally toggled WIFI off by brushing the bar.

This is one feature on my Windows laptop I don't like and not excited for a new Mac with one.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by sakisv »

Sometimes I really cannot understand the guys at apple:

- No regular USB ports

- No HDMI port

- No F keys

- No option for more than 16GB RAM

- No mag-safe

- More expensive

Why not bump the specs, allow for more RAM, and just add an extra USB-C to start the adoption slowly?

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by coldtea »

MPSimmons wrote: post #34
dchuk wrote: post #12

(Posted in another thread, that probably will not make it as high as this) I think conceptually this is really neat, but it could potentially suffer from one major flaw: I hardly ever look down at my keyboard. A flat, digital screen containing changing buttons does not cater well to touch typists, of which you can reasonably assume most are who use a macbook pro. Touch ID is sweet though.

You are making the assumption that they care about sophisticated users, and I can't see any evidence that they have for quite a while.

>You are making the assumption that they care about sophisticated users

You are making the assumption that your workloads are what define "sophisticated users".

I don't think a professional videographer or a photographer (both of which I do, and am very excited about extra on-demand functionality that the strip brings, for which many fork $300 and $1000 for dedicated external control strips and surfaces) is less "sophisticated" than some code churner that has a typing-heavy workload and doesn't have a use for taking his hands off the home row.

That said, I wont be using it much when programming either. But for Photoshop, Cubase and such? Shut up and take my money!

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by jonknee »

computmaxer wrote: post #169
ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

Four standard (non-proprietary) multi-use ports is a complaint? No innovative features? What do you call a ribbon display that no one has ever done before? No expansion - nothing new to the MBP line.

> Four standard (non-proprietary) multi-use ports is a complaint?

Well they are incompatible with almost everything Apple makes. You can't even plug in an iPhone out of the box. You'll need a special adapter for every device you have (monitor, storage, phone, SD reader, etc).

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