Suggestion: add gizmodo to the HN banned domains list.
Yes, Can we do this till they apologise publically and withdrew all links to this story please?. Let's do something than just talking.
Can someone tell me why this is downvoted?.
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#152The engineer in question is a good friend of several of us here at HN. We sincerely appreciate the support he's being shown here and elsewhere around the internet. So there is no doubt: Gray is one of the smartest engineers I've ever had the pleasure of knowing, and I'm sure he feels terrible about this. Although I'm sure this is going to be one of the worst weeks of his life, he will land on his feet, wherever that…
> The engineer in question is a good friend of several of us here at HN.
Do you mean that literally, or similar to "Ich bin ein Berliner"? If the former, that's a rather incredible coincidence, wouldn't you say?
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#153The engineer in question is a good friend of several of us here at HN. We sincerely appreciate the support he's being shown here and elsewhere around the internet. So there is no doubt: Gray is one of the smartest engineers I've ever had the pleasure of knowing, and I'm sure he feels terrible about this. Although I'm sure this is going to be one of the worst weeks of his life, he will land on his feet, wherever that…
> The engineer in question is a good friend of several of us here at HN. Do you mean that literally, or similar to "Ich bin ein Berliner"? If the former, that's a rather incredible coincidence, wouldn't you say?
Yes, I mean it literally. And no, not really a coincidence - he's got a lot of friends.
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#155Gizmodo's attitude is making me sick. All of these articles have such a "haha, gotcha!" attitude towards Apple (and especially Gray) for no reason at all. Apple is secretive about their products, so what? You got the prototype. Take the photos and report on it. There's no reason to divulge all this information about Gray. Apple knew who lost the phone already, since they were able to wipe it remotely. Their snide rem…
... http://gizmodo.com/5520669/it-was-gray-powells-birthday
... really? did you kick him enough while he was down? It's just unethical to exploit someone this much just for your ad clicks.
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#156Much as it's not cool of Gizmodo to drag this guys name on to the front pages I think everyone engaged in the Apple rumour mill is culpable in this, especially Apple themselves.
Gruber over at Daring Fireball basically called Gizomodo out by implying the phone was stolen. Apple love taunting the fan boys with the secrecy and ratcheting up the tension - this is the result.
It's all very funny until someone gets hurt.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason the frontpage has the stories it does is because they're the ones users have voted for. If you want different stories, the solution starts with you: try voting for some. You haven't voted on any of the stories currently on the frontpage.
> You haven't voted on any of the stories currently on the frontpage. You do realize you're effective saying here that you monitor the personal voting record of users, and that you're willing to disclose that record without their permission? Also, his whole point was that he didn't vote for those stories. There may be others that he did vote for but that didn't make it to the front page because of all the apple drama…
More accurately, he's effectively saying he's willing to look up the personal voting record of users who complain about the output of the voting algorithm.
Sounds like a perfectly hackerish thing to do. PG looked into whether the problem was with his algorithm or with the user. Turns out, PEBKAC.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Apple lets their prototypes out of the house in conditions that are 'real life' then they have to live with the fact that in 'real life' phones get lost and get stolen. What bugs me is that I can't imagine that every phone that is lost or stolen makes it's way to gizmodo, so how on earth did they find out that that phone was a prototype? Or did they really have a bunch of 'misses' before this 'hit'. Apple should d…
> What bugs me is that I can't imagine that every phone that is lost or stolen makes it's way to gizmodo, so how on earth did they find out that that phone was a prototype? Or did they really have a bunch of 'misses' before this 'hit'. It looked different. iPhones only come in a couple designs, it's not hard to tell when it's different.
It was wearing a case that made it look like a 3GS (in a case), though. You'd have to pick it up and stare at it to realize it had an extra camera cutout, etc. You'd have to be planning to do something with the phone already (steal it, or just return it to its owner) to take that long/hard a look.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bullshit. There's a big difference between making a mistake, and having that mistake sprayed across the internet for all to see.
Simply put once a news source starts omitting facts based on what they think is relevant that's the beginning of the end. News sources should report the facts in as complete a fashion as they are capable of doing. To do otherwise is to open the door to abuse. What's to stop a reporter from leaving a friend out of a story while reporting his coworkers were involved in some malfeasance? In that case the coworkers then…
"Simply put once a news source starts omitting facts based on what they think is relevant that's the beginning of the end."
Well, then apparently the beginning of the end was the beginning of journalism. This is done all the time.
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#160They very possibly did the guy a favor exposing his identity not only to insulate him from hasher retribution but also as pretty clear evidence it was an innocent mistake. No one would leave their identity on the device if they had personally conspired to sell it on the black market. I don't think it's that big of a deal. If the device was being field tested Apple was accepting the risk of theft/loss. If it had been…
I don't see how this does either of those things. On insulating him, it's not like Apple ever cared what public opinion was. They just spent the last week basically pushing back against their own developers. So if they want to fire him they'll do it public opinion be damned. As for proving it was an innocent mistake. I don't think it does that either. If I were an Apple engineer and I just sold the newest iPhone prot…
An apple engineer would risk and/or go through this for $10K? You have got to be kidding.