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Re: An apology...

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Post by Frazzydee »

jsz0 wrote: post #9

They very possibly did the guy a favor exposing his identity not only to insulate him from hasher retribution but also as pretty clear evidence it was an innocent mistake. No one would leave their identity on the device if they had personally conspired to sell it on the black market. I don't think it's that big of a deal. If the device was being field tested Apple was accepting the risk of theft/loss. If it had been…

Apple puts in a lot of effort to maintain an air of secrecy. It's part of their pubic image.

AFAIK this is the first time there has been a leak this big. It is a big deal to Apple.

Re: An apology...

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Post by eli »

junelin wrote: post #5

Press does what press does. It was his fault for being irresponsible.

I don't think that's fair. What Gizmodo did would violate the ethics policy of any serious news gathering organization. I don't consider them press.

Re: An apology...

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Post by cmelbye »

swilliams wrote: post #2

What reason did gizmodo have to release the identity of the engineer that lost the phone? To "prove" that their story was more real? Did they even consider what's going to happen to that guy? Every gawker website feels like it is just barely a half step above a tabloid, and in some cases, less than that (cf, Valleywag). Behaving this petulantly is not a very good way to discourage the popular perception of bloggers,…

Gizmodo isn't the reason that the owner of the phone will be caught. First of all, he lost it, so it's originally his fault. Second of all, it was remotely wiped, which implies that Apple knew what had happened to the device and they knew exactly which device it was so that they could wipe it. Third of all, there were clear shots of the backside of the phone which had several serial numbers, most likely linking it to its owner for Apple's purposes.

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Post by TomOfTTB »

razerbeans wrote: post #14

Seeing the name-drop of the Apple engineer on Gizmodo made my jaw drop. I couldn't believe that they would do such a thing. This no doubt casts a shadow on his career and life. It's a reckless attempt by what appears to be a subpar site to make itself somewhat legitimate. In this respect, they've failed miserably.

As much as I hate to defend Gawker I don't think you can blame them for the negative impact on his career. Say what you will he is guilty of what they claim he did. I would hope future employers would be willing to look past it and realize it was an innocent mistake but they have a right to know. In the end this incident is relevant to how much you trust him with prototypes in the future.

Beyond that Gawker is a news source. It's their job to report on stories. So while it was dishonest to buy the stolen prototype this post is just reporting the story and I'm not sure it's out of the bounds of what a news organization should do.

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Post by albertsun »

eli wrote: post #22
junelin wrote: post #5

Press does what press does. It was his fault for being irresponsible.

I don't think that's fair. What Gizmodo did would violate the ethics policy of any serious news gathering organization. I don't consider them press.

Cable/TV News fairly regularly pay subjects for stories.

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Post by gr366 »

TomOfTTB wrote: post #24
razerbeans wrote: post #14

Seeing the name-drop of the Apple engineer on Gizmodo made my jaw drop. I couldn't believe that they would do such a thing. This no doubt casts a shadow on his career and life. It's a reckless attempt by what appears to be a subpar site to make itself somewhat legitimate. In this respect, they've failed miserably.

As much as I hate to defend Gawker I don't think you can blame them for the negative impact on his career. Say what you will he is guilty of what they claim he did. I would hope future employers would be willing to look past it and realize it was an innocent mistake but they have a right to know. In the end this incident is relevant to how much you trust him with prototypes in the future. Beyond that Gawker is a news…

After this event, I'll bet you can trust him with future prototypes more than anyone else on this planet.

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Post by albertsun »

This outrage is misplaced and the example he uses comparing the iPhone to a naked picture is ludicrous.

Of all the attacks we have against people's personal character by blogs and the old and new media, attaching this guy's name to the phone he lost is practically nothing.

It's just business, not some attack on his character. As an employee of Apple, Gray Powell represents Apple. His name is part of the story. Due to a mistake of his Gizmodo scored a huge coup and got their hands on an unreleased iPhone and a big story. Good for them.

Re: An apology...

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Post by anthonyb »

TomOfTTB wrote: post #24
razerbeans wrote: post #14

Seeing the name-drop of the Apple engineer on Gizmodo made my jaw drop. I couldn't believe that they would do such a thing. This no doubt casts a shadow on his career and life. It's a reckless attempt by what appears to be a subpar site to make itself somewhat legitimate. In this respect, they've failed miserably.

As much as I hate to defend Gawker I don't think you can blame them for the negative impact on his career. Say what you will he is guilty of what they claim he did. I would hope future employers would be willing to look past it and realize it was an innocent mistake but they have a right to know. In the end this incident is relevant to how much you trust him with prototypes in the future. Beyond that Gawker is a news…

Bullshit. There's a big difference between making a mistake, and having that mistake sprayed across the internet for all to see.

Re: An apology...

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Post by prasen »

if gizmodo had not outed him, it could have been successfully sued for theft. Apple considers the phone stolen - an excuse given by powell to obviously save his ass - and had giz not explained the events as to how they got the phone - they would have got screwed. So yeah, everyone makes mistakes - but you've got to learn from them :)
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