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Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

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Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#91
post #44

Time to invest in hyperloop technology? With robotized cars and cheaper and cheaper air travel, rails are becoming a thing of the past.

In the US, passenger rail has always been neglected. This is not uniformly the case around the world.

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#92

In 2014, while in college, I did a co-op rotation at the Bombardier Transportation facility in Pittsburgh, PA. The rail division may be based in Germany, but there's a sizable rail engineering contingent in Pittsburgh. I worked with a lot of good people and engineers there--I hope they do alright. Even in 2014 there was grumbling by the engineers about upper management, and I remember attending an "all-hands" meeting…

>In a fairly tone-deaf delivery, he spoke of limiting his own business-class international travel.

I am reliably informed that business travel sucks donkey ass, (almost) regardless of class. It's tone deaf because travel has positive connotations to most people, not because he's out of touch with reality. To a business traveler, economy class is adding insult to injury.

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#93
post #44

Time to invest in hyperloop technology? With robotized cars and cheaper and cheaper air travel, rails are becoming a thing of the past.

In the US, passenger rail has always been neglected. This is not uniformly the case around the world.

Passenger rail is subsidized where it does the most good (mainly the Northeast US) and ignored where it won't.

Rail traffic from CA (or WA or OR) to the east has to deal with this insignificant barrier also known as the Rocky mountain range. Passes through the Rockies are frequently as high as 4000 feet and feature exciting twists and turns. It isn't impassible to rail, but it doesn't lend itself to the type of high speed rail that can compete with air travel.

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the sum of the losses has a noticeable impact on the economy I get what you're saying, but...does it? If I look at global real GDP, we're going along, business as usual. As the OP says, jobs are gained and lost on a much greater scale, monthly. There's a reason that jobs are being shed at this particular company, and it isn't because we no longer need transportation infrastructure. Bombardier is out, Tesla is in.

>Bombardier is out, Tesla is in. Pump the brakes there. The next time you ride the subway or take a commuter flight you won't be riding on a Tesla train car or aircraft. I get that the average HN visitor is enamored with Elon and Tesla, but c'mon now.

The next time I ride in a spaceship it won't be in a Bombardier one.

;)

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#96
post #33

There are hundreds of millions of people in North America. Why do people act like gaining or losing a couple thousand jobs is some kind of earth-shaking development? I get that losing jobs sucks for the people involved, but sometimes I even see US jobs reports delivered as breaking news in national newspapers. Why?

At least people should recognize the symmetry of hiring and firing. At some point, Bombardier hired each of those 7,500 people. Did this make the news? Were there HN posts praising the management for creating those jobs?

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#97

I'm surprised they couldn't find a buyer over in India (and still keep the engineers on board).

Considering the significant push for high-speed train infrastructure in India (and the fact that train is the main mode of long distance travel for a majority of Indians), I'm also surprised that didn't focus more on India (or maybe they did and it didn't pan out, I don't know).

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#98
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That won't happen, because the Quebec government will not allow it.

Because canadians are risk-averse. Hence why only the banks have been continuing to make money; they even invest in each other to keep the risk-averse cycle going.

It's not risk-averse, it's being allergic to batshit crazy.

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#99
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends where you live. I don't ride the subway; they're impractical where I live. ATVs or snowmobiles are necessary for reaching many areas of my state not covered by the road system.

"Nobody" = thousands of people, compared to millions.

Literally millions of people ride ATVs and snowmobiles.

Where I live there are more miles of snowmobile trails than there are paved roads, and there's a lot of roads.

Re: Bombardier to Cut 7,500 More Jobs Through 2018, Most in Rail

#100

In 2014, while in college, I did a co-op rotation at the Bombardier Transportation facility in Pittsburgh, PA. The rail division may be based in Germany, but there's a sizable rail engineering contingent in Pittsburgh. I worked with a lot of good people and engineers there--I hope they do alright. Even in 2014 there was grumbling by the engineers about upper management, and I remember attending an "all-hands" meeting…

I'm the same with my interactions with Bombardier. Every time I've come into contact with them in business, or through networking functions, I've noticed what a good group of people they've been.
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