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Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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You comparing Stalin to Hitler? Are people mad these days?

Why would it be mad? Because Hitler singled out an ethnic group for extermination in addition to political opponents rather than just killing off political opponents? They both racked up a comparable body-counts of their own people as rulers (well, enough for both to be consider mass-murders, though I understand that Stalin had a high body-count).

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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2012 hack on a "west coast company" ... anyone know which hack this might be?

Linkedin maybe? This stirred up controversy in the US gov where they might have invested resources in pursuing the attacker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_LinkedIn_hack

Yahoo's discovery of the big intrusion recently was from 2012 but that might have been too recent?

Also Dropbox was hacked in 2012.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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No word on who was arrested or who their victims were. All we have to confirm the story is political posturing from two global superpowers over an arrest in a third country. This sounds like the opening act of a cold war era political struggle. War by proxy, etc. Can we please not repeat that chapter in history? Or, if we're going to do so, at least not use hackers as the pawns in this sick game? I'd appreciate at le…

Opening act? I think we're well past act 1 scene 1, there's a literal proxy war happening right now in Syria.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most of the cases we've seen with extraditions to the US for hacking, the burden placed on the US to justify the extradition has been pretty significant. We have in fact lost extradition cases where few of the underlying facts were in doubt. I'm also not sure how bringing suspects to trial in the US flies in the face of US justice system ideals.

Well in this instance I'm suggesting that the uprooting and deprivation of freedom using foreign law as a basis is unreasonable. I fully admit this is a lay person interpretation and the law likely disagrees, but I would imagine that a more fair process would first let an international court or the local governing body determine in full if they cooperate, not instead have a blanket extradition treaty. Unless I am mis…

Most extradition treaties agree with you, and refuse to extradite unless the crime charged is criminal in both locales.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People can imagine all sorts of things, but the US already has solid evidence that Russia is behind a number of US hacks. Not only that, but the US has already said Russia is behind those attacks; it would actually harm their argument if they built a giant PR campaign around this dude, because it would call into question the previous attribution. I can imagine this going like this: 1. They extradite this guy to the U…

> "Not only that, but the US has already said Russia is behind those attacks; it would actually harm their argument if they built a giant PR campaign" Did not US said that Iraq had a weapon of mass destruction and invaded them with a huge PR campaign?

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Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People can imagine all sorts of things, but the US already has solid evidence that Russia is behind a number of US hacks. Not only that, but the US has already said Russia is behind those attacks; it would actually harm their argument if they built a giant PR campaign around this dude, because it would call into question the previous attribution. I can imagine this going like this: 1. They extradite this guy to the U…

> "Not only that, but the US has already said Russia is behind those attacks; it would actually harm their argument if they built a giant PR campaign" Did not US said that Iraq had a weapon of mass destruction and invaded them with a huge PR campaign?

It was not my claim that the US doesn't run PR campaigns, just that the one you propose doesn't make sense.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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post #72

2012 hack on a "west coast company" ... anyone know which hack this might be? Linkedin maybe? This stirred up controversy in the US gov where they might have invested resources in pursuing the attacker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_LinkedIn_hack Yahoo's discovery of the big intrusion recently was from 2012 but that might have been too recent? Also Dropbox was hacked in 2012.

That paragraph was just added, wasn't there a hour ago.

UPD "Suspect believed to be tied to massive LinkedIn hack arrested in Prague, sources say; U.S. officials hope to extradite him to U.S."

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/788754540656898049

“Following the 2012 breach of LinkedIn member information, we have remained actively involved with the FBI’s case to pursue those responsible,” a LinkedIn spokesperson told Motherboard in an email. “We are thankful for the hardwork and dedication of the FBI in its efforts to locate and capture the parties believed to be responsible for this criminal activity.”

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/hacker-allegedly-responsibl...

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not following. Extradition has been an international norm since before the US even existed. We signed our first extradition treaty in the 1700s.

Russia and the US are going to bicker over who gets this person, as the article makes clear and you've alluded to. This is just one of many conflicts between both nations that could have far-reaching political consequences. I'm not sure what's more difficult to follow here? I'm not predicting a specific outcome (or worse, detailing some conspiracy theory); I'm just stating that there's a significant potential for bad…

Russia has no basis for bickering. No norm of international law suggests Russia has the right to shield its citizens from foreign prosecution. US citizens are routinely tried abroad, as well.

That was the point of the checklist I provided upthread.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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You comparing Stalin to Hitler? Are people mad these days?

Well, both are dictators responsible for the death of millions of people for political and ethnic reasons.

They are perfectly comparable.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-... http://historyofrussia.org/stalin-killed-how-many-people/

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