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Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Czech Republic a member of European Union: Check! Czech Republic a NATO Ally: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In Czech Republic by Czech Law: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In European Union: Check! Bilateral Extradition Treaty Present Between US and Czech Republic: Check! European Union Recognizes Validity Of Bilateral Extradition Treaties With The US: Check! I am not clear on the basis of Russia's expectation that the…

Well they can at least ask.

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All I'm saying is I don't like where this is going, and I think it's eerily similar to a path both countries have traveled before. If history must repeat, I'd rather not have the world's hackers get dragged into the struggle. I hate politics in my technology, dammit.

If the world is entering a new cold war based on cybersecurity threats instead of existential WMD threats (and I believe it likely is), entire national populations are going to be dragged into the struggle, let alone a few hackers.

To all countries involved in this hypothetical scenario (or others like it), I have the following to say: Sod off and fight your own battles.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Czech Republic a member of European Union: Check! Czech Republic a NATO Ally: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In Czech Republic by Czech Law: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In European Union: Check! Bilateral Extradition Treaty Present Between US and Czech Republic: Check! European Union Recognizes Validity Of Bilateral Extradition Treaties With The US: Check! I am not clear on the basis of Russia's expectation that the…

Czech Republic, is supposedly a base of Russia espionage for European Union[1]. There are very close connections between our high-profile politics to people around Putin.[2] My guess is that he will be returned to Russia.

I recommend to read the profile published by Guardian last year on Czech president Milos Zeman.[3]

[1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/czechrepubl...

[2] http://praguemonitor.com/2016/08/10/zeman-attend-conference-...

[3] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/15/milos-...

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably that hacker shouldn't have worked for Russian intelligence while living in a NATO country. I'd expect the same for an NSA hacker working out of Turkmenistan or something.

All I'm saying is I don't like where this is going, and I think it's eerily similar to a path both countries have traveled before. If history must repeat, I'd rather not have the world's hackers get dragged into the struggle. I hate politics in my technology, dammit.

To be fair, due to Russian non-extradition rules this is generally how Russian hackers are arrested. Whether they are state sponsored or general black hats (e.g carders) the US authorities wait for then to take a trip into the EU or some other friendly (to the US) location and then arrest them. The guy who sent Brian Krebs heroin was a Russian hacker arrested in Italy and many other shave been arrested on their holidays to EU states.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Czech Republic a member of European Union: Check! Czech Republic a NATO Ally: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In Czech Republic by Czech Law: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In European Union: Check! Bilateral Extradition Treaty Present Between US and Czech Republic: Check! European Union Recognizes Validity Of Bilateral Extradition Treaties With The US: Check! I am not clear on the basis of Russia's expectation that the…

Czech Republic, is supposedly a base of Russia espionage for European Union[1]. There are very close connections between our high-profile politics to people around Putin.[2] My guess is that he will be returned to Russia. I recommend to read the profile published by Guardian last year on Czech president Milos Zeman.[3] [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/czechrepubl... [2] http://praguemonitor.com/20…

Anecdotally, my wife grew up in Prague and has said it is a favorite for Russian tourism, so it's probably fairly easy to enter the E.U. there.

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Where do you get those check marks from? There is not a single word in the article that has a proof of what he did. Imagine if Russia captured US citizen in Argentina saying he is American hacker who they think hacked Russian servers, I can imagine the outrage of the US and its European puppets. Also nytimes is incredibly biased against Russia, I would not trust a single word it says.

Did you see a check mark convicting him of hacking? I do not. First you arrest. Then, you arraign. Then, you spend months building a case and allowing the defense to build theirs. Then you try the case. Then you convict. Would you like me to add a final line: "Dude is convicted of hacking in US: NO CHECK!"? I can, if you think that clears anything up.

Isn't there also a hearing before extradition to determine probable cause? If the US can't provide proof he won't be extradited.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Czech Republic a member of European Union: Check! Czech Republic a NATO Ally: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In Czech Republic by Czech Law: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In European Union: Check! Bilateral Extradition Treaty Present Between US and Czech Republic: Check! European Union Recognizes Validity Of Bilateral Extradition Treaties With The US: Check! I am not clear on the basis of Russia's expectation that the…

Where do you get those check marks from? There is not a single word in the article that has a proof of what he did. Imagine if Russia captured US citizen in Argentina saying he is American hacker who they think hacked Russian servers, I can imagine the outrage of the US and its European puppets. Also nytimes is incredibly biased against Russia, I would not trust a single word it says.

> Where do you get those check marks from?

Do you want to dispute any of them? Do you believe the Czech Republic isn't an EU/NATO member, as asserted with the "check"s?

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you see a check mark convicting him of hacking? I do not. First you arrest. Then, you arraign. Then, you spend months building a case and allowing the defense to build theirs. Then you try the case. Then you convict. Would you like me to add a final line: "Dude is convicted of hacking in US: NO CHECK!"? I can, if you think that clears anything up.

Isn't there also a hearing before extradition to determine probable cause? If the US can't provide proof he won't be extradited.

Probable cause isn't the same thing as proof. Proof isn't required for extradition.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Guccifer2.0?

Unlikely to be him, he tweeted last night. The person referred to in the article was arrested a few days ago.

They're not sure if Guccifer 2.0 is one person or a hacking group. Many independent security firms have said it's associated with two Russian intelligence agencies.
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