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Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

#11
This sounds a lot like a thinly veiled attempt to dump a story about a state sponsored hacker being arrested and possibly extradited back to the US. All we've heard for weeks now is how a group of state sponsored Russian hackers were feeding DNC documents to Wikileaks.

The lack of details and the Russian response just sounds fishy to me.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

#12
post #7

No word on who was arrested or who their victims were. All we have to confirm the story is political posturing from two global superpowers over an arrest in a third country. This sounds like the opening act of a cold war era political struggle. War by proxy, etc. Can we please not repeat that chapter in history? Or, if we're going to do so, at least not use hackers as the pawns in this sick game? I'd appreciate at le…

Probably that hacker shouldn't have worked for Russian intelligence while living in a NATO country. I'd expect the same for an NSA hacker working out of Turkmenistan or something.

All I'm saying is I don't like where this is going, and I think it's eerily similar to a path both countries have traveled before.

If history must repeat, I'd rather not have the world's hackers get dragged into the struggle. I hate politics in my technology, dammit.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

#13
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Czech Republic a member of European Union: Check! Czech Republic a NATO Ally: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In Czech Republic by Czech Law: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In European Union: Check! Bilateral Extradition Treaty Present Between US and Czech Republic: Check! European Union Recognizes Validity Of Bilateral Extradition Treaties With The US: Check! I am not clear on the basis of Russia's expectation that the…

Where do you get those check marks from? There is not a single word in the article that has a proof of what he did.

Imagine if Russia captured US citizen in Argentina saying he is American hacker who they think hacked Russian servers, I can imagine the outrage of the US and its European puppets.

Also nytimes is incredibly biased against Russia, I would not trust a single word it says.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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post #13
post #3

Czech Republic a member of European Union: Check! Czech Republic a NATO Ally: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In Czech Republic by Czech Law: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In European Union: Check! Bilateral Extradition Treaty Present Between US and Czech Republic: Check! European Union Recognizes Validity Of Bilateral Extradition Treaties With The US: Check! I am not clear on the basis of Russia's expectation that the…

Where do you get those check marks from? There is not a single word in the article that has a proof of what he did. Imagine if Russia captured US citizen in Argentina saying he is American hacker who they think hacked Russian servers, I can imagine the outrage of the US and its European puppets. Also nytimes is incredibly biased against Russia, I would not trust a single word it says.

Did you see a check mark convicting him of hacking? I do not. First you arrest. Then, you arraign. Then, you spend months building a case and allowing the defense to build theirs. Then you try the case. Then you convict.

Would you like me to add a final line: "Dude is convicted of hacking in US: NO CHECK!"? I can, if you think that clears anything up.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

#15
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably that hacker shouldn't have worked for Russian intelligence while living in a NATO country. I'd expect the same for an NSA hacker working out of Turkmenistan or something.

All I'm saying is I don't like where this is going, and I think it's eerily similar to a path both countries have traveled before. If history must repeat, I'd rather not have the world's hackers get dragged into the struggle. I hate politics in my technology, dammit.

I'm still not clear on where you think this is going. He was arrested by the FBI, not rendered by the CIA. He's being charged with a crime. It's a crime that both the Czech Republic and the US have recognized as a crime for a long time.

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#16
I can imagine this going like this:

1. They extradite this guy to USA

2. Accuse him of hacking and offering him a plea and full protection if he says that Putin was the one who sponsored these attacks

3. Guy says whatever they want him to say

4. USA has now "solid" evidence that Putin hacked them

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

#17
post #3

Czech Republic a member of European Union: Check! Czech Republic a NATO Ally: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In Czech Republic by Czech Law: Check! Computer Crime Illegal In European Union: Check! Bilateral Extradition Treaty Present Between US and Czech Republic: Check! European Union Recognizes Validity Of Bilateral Extradition Treaties With The US: Check! I am not clear on the basis of Russia's expectation that the…

Unfortunately, our (Czech) president is a big friend with Russia/China etc., he actively pulls strings in the background, so I wouldnt be surprised if this scenario would magically happen, somehow.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

#18
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably that hacker shouldn't have worked for Russian intelligence while living in a NATO country. I'd expect the same for an NSA hacker working out of Turkmenistan or something.

All I'm saying is I don't like where this is going, and I think it's eerily similar to a path both countries have traveled before. If history must repeat, I'd rather not have the world's hackers get dragged into the struggle. I hate politics in my technology, dammit.

If the world is entering a new cold war based on cybersecurity threats instead of existential WMD threats (and I believe it likely is), entire national populations are going to be dragged into the struggle, let alone a few hackers.

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

#19
> The Russian Embassy in Prague, however, called for the man to be released.

> “We insist that the detained Russian citizen should be transferred to Russia,”

Released or transferred to Russia? And why is the speculation from Janda there - he is no security expert? Where do the suggestions there is a link to DNC hack come from? He could easily be just running a botnet, blackmailing or a thousand other things... Really RT-level article here

Re: Russian Hacker, Wanted by F.B.I., Is Arrested in Prague, Czechs Say

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All I'm saying is I don't like where this is going, and I think it's eerily similar to a path both countries have traveled before. If history must repeat, I'd rather not have the world's hackers get dragged into the struggle. I hate politics in my technology, dammit.

I'm still not clear on where you think this is going. He was arrested by the FBI, not rendered by the CIA. He's being charged with a crime. It's a crime that both the Czech Republic and the US have recognized as a crime for a long time.

> I'm still not clear on where you think this is going.

Further political strife and possibly even all-out war, especially if warmer heads get elected.

> He was arrested by the FBI, not rendered by the CIA. He's being charged with a crime. It's a crime that both the Czech Republic and the US have recognized as a crime for a long time.

Is he going to be prosecuted in the Czech Republic and (if the prosecution is successful) sentenced to a prison term in the Czech Republic, guaranteed, without any possibility of extradition to US or Russia?

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