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Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by mikeash »

phy6 wrote: post #697
mikeash wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, a drone strike in the middle of the capital city of our closest ally, obviously that was a serious suggestion....

Tongue-in-cheek: President Bill Clinton later apologized for the bombing, stating it was accidental. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the_C...

Note that we were actively bombing Serbia at the time. The only error there was bombing the Chinese embassy instead of the Serbian government building that was supposed to be the target. Bombing an embassy in London would be a bit different....

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by artursapek »

the_duke wrote: post #483
gragas wrote: post #383

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If hundreds of pieces of direct evidence don't suffice, then I'm not sure what does. The Clinton Foundation has done countless extremely illegal and unethical things. Between CTR, the Bernie fiasco, the fake Craigslist ads, the "public and private" positions, I'm not sure how you can say that HRC isn't trying to create an alternate reality.

Every politician has public and private positions. That's just how politics works. The view the plebs demands often don't align with either the politicians vision for the country, what's possible near or long term, or the people you are indebted to (donors, etc). In many cases it's acceptable and even advisable, in my opinion. A head of state has insight into facts and knowledge of others about realities and facts th…

> Every politician has public and private positions. That's just how politics works.

Really? Even with binary opinions like supporting gay marriage?

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by dingbat »

droopybuns wrote: post #615
pdx wrote: post #554

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To further what you're saying. Wikileaks announced for weeks when they were releasing the emails. It was a pre-planned event that the entire world was waiting for. The Trump tape, which had obviously been saved for a rainy day, was trotted out to distract from the pre-announced Wikileaks release. This level of premeditated collusion with the media is not even up for debate at this point, since the very emails they ar…

I'd like to suggest a more significant conclusion. The trust I have had in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, ABC/NBC/CBS, Democratic and Republican parties has been irreparably damaged. I've been a cord cutter for over a decade. This year I graduated to pitying people who repeat the latest front page story as naive fear-junkies. Everything is suspect. Why burn processing cycles reading stories that on their fa…

re: the example you give about VP Biden announcing secret cyber attacks against Russia during an NBC News interview, it isnt necessarily a waste to "burn processing cycles" keeping up with such news, when you consider that observing propaganda in action can itself provide information about "what" exactly the "powers that be" want people to believe, leading to further examination of "why".

it is similar to reading financial news or watching CNBC with the mindset of reading between the lines, wondering who and why is interested in propagating such stories.

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Post by gotchange »

droopybuns wrote: post #615
pdx wrote: post #554

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To further what you're saying. Wikileaks announced for weeks when they were releasing the emails. It was a pre-planned event that the entire world was waiting for. The Trump tape, which had obviously been saved for a rainy day, was trotted out to distract from the pre-announced Wikileaks release. This level of premeditated collusion with the media is not even up for debate at this point, since the very emails they ar…

I'd like to suggest a more significant conclusion. The trust I have had in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, ABC/NBC/CBS, Democratic and Republican parties has been irreparably damaged. I've been a cord cutter for over a decade. This year I graduated to pitying people who repeat the latest front page story as naive fear-junkies. Everything is suspect. Why burn processing cycles reading stories that on their fa…

Do you consider this piece of journalism as propaganda too?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/world/rise-of-saudi-prince...

I could be as much skeptic as you and I can draw my own conclusions for why this particular story might have been published now and not before, and for what purpose, but this doesn't stop me from enjoying reading it and absorbing its juicy details and knowledge.

I'm still thankful for NYT for dedicating time and effort to expose this person as a fraud and hypocrite and I'm looking forward to reading more of these in the future for other despicable figures.

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Post by bduerst »

danielahn wrote: post #523
gragas wrote: post #480

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- Hillary and her team deliberately trying to trick the FBI by giving them a "slightly broader" set of emails [1]: "What that means specifically is that they are going to turn over all the Blumenthal emails to the Committee that they hav along with some other HRC emails that include a slightly broader set of search terms than the original batch. That of course includes the emails Sid turned over that HRC didn't, whic…

Is this post satirical? I think I am being trolled, but at the risk of making myself look like a fool for falling for it: How is your reading comprehension this bad? 1. Your understanding of the comment here is miserable given the point you are trying to make. If you should find anything suspicious, it is that the 2nd set of e-mails, with a broader search, included e-mails that should have been turned over previously…

User gragas is copying and pasting the same post at this point - they're not interested in discussion as much as astroturfing at this point:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12715525

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Post by danielahn »

bduerst wrote: post #755
danielahn wrote: post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this post satirical? I think I am being trolled, but at the risk of making myself look like a fool for falling for it: How is your reading comprehension this bad? 1. Your understanding of the comment here is miserable given the point you are trying to make. If you should find anything suspicious, it is that the 2nd set of e-mails, with a broader search, included e-mails that should have been turned over previously…

User gragas is copying and pasting the same post at this point - they're not interested in discussion as much as astroturfing at this point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12715525

Gotcha - thanks!

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Post by aaron-lebo »

darawk wrote: post #593
ihsw wrote: post #538

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There is a difference between what you're describing is different from what is occurring -- she campaigns on LGTB rights and freedoms but her private positions is nothing short of abject disdain for LGTBs. She tries to run on anti-establishment but there is no-one that is more establishment than her. She tries to run on fighting for women's rights but she is an apologist for her husband's sordid history of sexual abu…

> There is a difference between what you're describing is different from what is occurring -- she campaigns on LGTB rights and freedoms but her private positions is nothing short of abject disdain for LGTBs. Source? > She tries to run on anti-establishment but there is no-one that is more establishment than her. Sure, but that's just marketing, not substance. > She tries to run on fighting for women's rights but she…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZkK2_6H9MM

Re: gay rights.

How about that cackle?

What is a political opportunist? The Clintons have always operated via the polls. Against gay marriage when being against it was popular, now an ardent supporter.

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Post by virtuabhi »

matt4077 wrote: post #461
staticelf wrote: post #130

From a Swedish perspective the Julian Assange case is particular close to the heart since it really shows how corrupt even our courts and politicians are. Sweden is rated as one of the countries with the lowest corruption but still 6 years have passed without even interviewing him for the pathetic accusations. The entire case is a joke and whatever the US-election result is, it's bad for the entire world since our co…

In a legal system, the accused doesn't get to negotiate the details of his interview. Assange, being the narcissistic idiot that he is, chose to imprison himself because for him, being imprisoned in an embassy at least feels a bit like a spy novel instead of just a case of him getting a bit too rapey. And how is this supposed to be "corrupt". Are you implying a vast conspiracy were the CIA is orchestrating everyone f…

I think you are not familiar with the current state of world. Read this and see if the question you posed is answered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales_grounding_incident

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Post by dingbat »

anthony_romeo wrote: post #237

We're in the middle of some crazy propaganda war right now, and it's been this way for quite a while. It became completely transparent when the Podesta e-mails were released mere minutes after Trump's videos regarding possible sexual assault were released. Ever since the DNC leaks and the subsequent accusations against Russia, it became clear to me that, at some point, the attempts to tarnish Wikileaks's name was to…

its also abundantly transparent now that "fact checking" services have lost all credibility, ie. "DT claimed HRC server was acid-washed: FALSE", "DT claimed HRC laughed at an 11-year-old rape victim: FALSE".

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Post by dleslie »

mejari wrote: post #502
dleslie wrote: post #490

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They released on-schedule; they filter through the data they receive to avoid releasing information that can endanger individuals. This takes time, and they made it clear that it would be completed close to the election.

That is incorrect on both counts. They promised releases several weeks in a row before they actually released anything. And they also released social security numbers, names and addresses for hundreds/thousands of people, so they're obviously not that concerned with protecting people. Hell, the put out the information on almost all women voters in Turkey, putting them in danger: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zeynep-t…

> They promised releases several weeks in a row before they actually released anything.

So they promised releases well in advance and then released them.

> And they also released social security numbers, names and addresses for hundreds/thousands of people, so they're obviously not that concerned with protecting people.

That wasn't Wikileaks, it was Michael Best. Did you read the update at the top of the article you linked?

From Michael Best himself:

> @WikiLeaks didn't upload the #AKP files with the private info on Turkish women - I did (and they've been removed)

https://twitter.com/natsecgeek/status/758059030527021056

Stop reading the Huffington Post; it's a rag.

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