He's clearly investing in his vision for your country to turn them into reality, and therefore should be dealt with accordingly and not just dismissed as just some politically uninformed and misguided guy on the street who happened to espouse dangerous and vile political views but he'll grow out of it in due time.
The 2016 Election
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Re: The 2016 Election
#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an incredibly concern trolling argument. There is no right or wrong way to vote for third parties.
I initially was upset at mr Nader, when Gore lost. I got over it and, in retrospect, the blame is fully on Gore. He simply didn't convince enough people with his message. It wasn't Nader's (or anyone else's) responsibility to make Gore more electable, it was Gore's responsibility.
Re: The 2016 Election
#313I'm not from the US but I'd vote for Trump. To me Hillary represent the imperial US, the economic Hitmen US, the could war US, the NSA US, the make sure Russia-Europe relations are poor US. She represents the elites, the Rothschilds, the banks, the family of secrets, the kill-list, the endless meddling in countries that have a lot of natural resources "for the common good". She represents Guantanamo bay, more drones…
Here's why I disagree (also not from the US). If you look at actual history , World War 2 happened exactly because some countries were unwilling to defend other countries, and let the Germans effectively try to conquer Europe. From a game theory perspective, you really, really want to pre-commit to not letting other countries do things that will cause war. So you pre-commit to protecting allies and other countries ag…
Re: The 2016 Election
#314Why would Sam not go for a third party who was less problematic? There are third party candidates available. Is it because they are unlikely to be elected? If so, this thinking keeps on trapping us into voting for the least bad of the bad.
Case in point : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU
Re: The 2016 Election
#315I'm not from the US but I'd vote for Trump. To me Hillary represent the imperial US, the economic Hitmen US, the could war US, the NSA US, the make sure Russia-Europe relations are poor US. She represents the elites, the Rothschilds, the banks, the family of secrets, the kill-list, the endless meddling in countries that have a lot of natural resources "for the common good". She represents Guantanamo bay, more drones…
Here's why I disagree (also not from the US). If you look at actual history , World War 2 happened exactly because some countries were unwilling to defend other countries, and let the Germans effectively try to conquer Europe. From a game theory perspective, you really, really want to pre-commit to not letting other countries do things that will cause war. So you pre-commit to protecting allies and other countries ag…
with that logic we should throw out our two-party system entirely and turn into a constitutional monarchy of bush and/or clintons...
Re: The 2016 Election
#316As an outsider, I am having troubles understanding why the Democrats put against Trump the only candidate who had a poor enough track record to make this election "interesting". Why didn't they choose Sanders who is not as vulnerable as Hilton? By they I mean the Democrat elite.
Re: The 2016 Election
#317> We should all feel a duty to try to understand the roughly > half of the country that thinks we are severely misguided. > I don’t understand how 43% of the country supports Trump. > But I’d like to find out, because we have to include > everyone in our path forward. If our best ideas are to > stop talking to or fire anyone who disagrees with us, > we’ll be facing this whole situation again in 2020. > > That kind of…
> That's not how things are done in this country. Tocqueville, almost 200 years ago, begs to differ: "I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America.... in America the majority raises formidable barriers around the liberty of opinion; within these barriers an author may write what he pleases; but woe to him if he goes beyond them." [1] What's changed…
Re: The 2016 Election
#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
In this case, the minority are rich and powerful people.
Not really, the minority is anybody who's ever had the wrong opinion on anything that sufficiently socially powerful people think is worth burning the heretics over. If you really need to get at somebody, it may in fact be sufficient to just make something up: https://twitter.com/nodevember/status/771520648191483904
How is being uninvited as a keynote speaker being burned at the stake? Or even remotely comparable to the policies that Donald Trump has advocated (killing the families of suspected terrorists, jailing political opponents) or bragging about sexual assault, which is illegal?
I can see why folks had an issue with Eich being forced out of Mozilla, but the world isn't black and white when it comes to "free speech". Allowing free speech doesn't mean that you should be shielded from the consequences from the world at large.
Re: The 2016 Election
#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
He didn't say women shouldn't be able to vote. He said that giving women the right to vote has eroded some of his libertarian ideals, because women tend to oppose those ideals. Which is a true statement.
What logic is this? Pretty it up in some rhetoric, but not matter how you slice it, at the end of the day he _IS_ saying that he regrets the 17th amendment.
1. He regrets the 17th amendment.
2. He thinks libertarians haven't marketed themselves well towards women, and they should work on that.
3. A simple observation of fact and narrative of history, mentioned casually in a long essay otherwise unrelated to women's suffrage.
My personal interpretation is #2. But we can't know unless he clarifies it, and until then it would be wise to reserve judgment.
Re: The 2016 Election
#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sam tweeted that this was his favorite article about the election: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-on... It really does a great job of helping explain Trump supporters.
I'm kind of surprised 'Hillbilly Elegy' hasn't come up yet. [1] http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-lives-... [2] http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/09/the-orig...
[1] https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/10/hillbilly-elegy-review-jd...