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The 2016 Election

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Re: The 2016 Election

#61
> I don’t understand how 43% of the country supports Trump. But I’d like to find out.

This is the attitude we need. Not the name calling and shaming. Instead, go grab a beer together, talk about the issues, agree to disagree and in 9 out of 10 cases you will usually find out the person voting for $theOtherCandidate isn't a huge asshole and probably cares about other people just as much as you do.

Re: The 2016 Election

#62

    > (of course, if Peter said some of the things Trump says himself, he would no longer be part of Y Combinator)
This is the difference, in my book, between casting a ballot and writing a big check. Casting a ballot is what you have the right to do privately, without judgement from the world. When you write a check (especially one of the 7-figure variety), and amplify the message, you bear far more responsibility than a voter.

One of the best ways to fix our broken campaign finance system would be to hold asshats like Thiel responsible for what their dollars are funding.

Re: The 2016 Election

#63
As much as I hate Trump, I'm kind of hoping for him to win. Fundamentally, I think that 4 years of Trump might be better than 8 years of Hillary. Also, if Hillary wins, the DNC won't have to change. If Trump wins, in 2020, they will be forced to nominate maybe someone like Sanders.

Trump winning will also really underscore how broken the US political system is and I'm hoping that him winning could be a catalyst for some change.

Re: The 2016 Election

#64
post #10

Why would Sam not go for a third party who was less problematic? There are third party candidates available. Is it because they are unlikely to be elected? If so, this thinking keeps on trapping us into voting for the least bad of the bad.

In most social and business circles, especially wealthy ones, supporting a 3rd party presidential candidate puts you in the "out out group", a severe career limiting move (TM).

Re: The 2016 Election

#65
post #6

> We should all feel a duty to try to understand the roughly > half of the country that thinks we are severely misguided. > I don’t understand how 43% of the country supports Trump. > But I’d like to find out, because we have to include > everyone in our path forward. If our best ideas are to > stop talking to or fire anyone who disagrees with us, > we’ll be facing this whole situation again in 2020. > > That kind of…

Precisely. It doesn't mean that their perspective is guaranteed to be rational or free from ugly ideas. But it's a valid perspective.

Re: The 2016 Election

#66
post #33

> We shouldn’t start purging people for supporting the wrong political candidate. That's not how things are done in this country. Amen.

I am always skeptical when somebody takes his personal opinion as the metric to tell the world what right and wrong is.

Except that he made the case for why he thinks Trump is the wrong candidate. Keep in mind, he wrote a blog post earlier giving credit to Trump on topics that he is correct on.

Re: The 2016 Election

#67

> if Peter said some of the things Trump says himself, he would no longer be part of Y Combinator That could be scary to employees of Y Combinator... what things fall on the blacklist? To me it's obvious that you will fire someone for saying racist or sexist remarks but it's not clear exactly what I can or cannot say to avoid being fired.

I don't think it's that controversial a statement. Trump is basically a walking HR nightmare and would never be employable at a typical company given any of the things he says about (or does to) people.

Re: The 2016 Election

#68
post #40

YC: Happy to cut people off over SOPA support. YC: Can't bring itself to even censure a billionaire who only works with them "part-time" for supporting actual hatred and sexual abuse. I await this thread filling up with "but how you can be tolerant if you don't tolerate intolerance?!" and other Phil-101 Do You Sees

For what it's worth, the former was YC under pg and the latter is YC under Sam Altman. Maybe the two disagree about how things should be done?

https://twitter.com/paulg https://twitter.com/sama

If you look at their respective Tweets they seem to agree.

Re: The 2016 Election

#69
post #5

> of course, if Peter said some of the things Trump says himself, he would no longer be part of Y Combinator). This is precisely where your whole argument fell apart. If money is speech (and SCOTUS tells us it is) and Thiel donates over $1 million to Trump's campaign, then he effectively is saying what Trump is saying. Money talks. In our society, it's almost always even louder than the calm reasoning of a rationalis…

"If money is speech (and SCOTUS tells us it is) and Thiel donates over $1 million to Trump's campaign, then he effectively is saying what Trump is saying." And wasn't this the argument made by those who supported the ouster of Brendan Eich from Mozilla?

I made it then, and I'm making it now. One of the best ways we can fix campaign finance is by holding campaign financiers responsible for what they're funding.

Re: The 2016 Election

#70

YC: Happy to cut people off over SOPA support. YC: Can't bring itself to even censure a billionaire who only works with them "part-time" for supporting actual hatred and sexual abuse. I await this thread filling up with "but how you can be tolerant if you don't tolerate intolerance?!" and other Phil-101 Do You Sees

I mean, I see the difficulty. Ostensibly, Peter Thiel has a lot of value to the tech community. SOPA does not.

But.... this post does censure Peter Thiel. sama is completely disavowing Thiel's support of Trump. Maybe I don't understand what "censure" means though, if you meant something else.

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