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Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by wbhart »

jMyles wrote: post #558
PJDK wrote: post #235

I'm a bit confused by all the comments here spinning off down conspiracy theories, but not much on facts. "State actor" can only really mean UK or Ecuadorian government - or at the very least one of those two must be pulling the trigger. If it's Ecuador that makes some sense, they control the connections to the outside world - they could just change some passwords and internet is cut. But that would be very obviously…

Another possibility: For whatever reason, JA exclusively uses GSM for access (independent of whatever connection the embassy uses) and this was cut off at the behest of some state actor. In any case, this is all speculation until we get some kind of evidence of some kind.

If recreations of Julian Assange's room in the embassy (from memory; photographs are not allowed due to embassy rules) are correct, then Assange uses a wireless router just like the rest of us.

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Post by dragonwriter »

Lewton wrote: post #576
pdx wrote: post #567

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your cognitive dissonance is astounding, but perhaps understandable. You recognize and admit (as you have no choice doing, after the mountain of proof) that the media willingly prostitutes itself to further the cause of the current administration, with no regard for actual truth. But you allow yourself to be influenced in your opinion of Donald Trump by that same media. Imagine if a mean girl in your office told ever…

>But you allow yourself to be influenced in your opinion of Donald Trump by that same media. This is absolutely ridiculous, trump has been a public figure for 30+(?) years. Even if you ignore the smearing that's been happening for the past year in the media, there's plenty of reasons to think this guy is the last person you'd want as president

The "smearing" in the last year consists largely of repeating the reporting of facts of what Trump has done and said in the period in which he has been a public celebrity.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by sytelus »

anthony_romeo wrote: post #237

We're in the middle of some crazy propaganda war right now, and it's been this way for quite a while. It became completely transparent when the Podesta e-mails were released mere minutes after Trump's videos regarding possible sexual assault were released. Ever since the DNC leaks and the subsequent accusations against Russia, it became clear to me that, at some point, the attempts to tarnish Wikileaks's name was to…

Is there something really damaging in Wikileak emails? Even on Fox News they are not able to mention anything that is at the level of Trump tapes. Sure, there is some amusing stuff and quipes by aggressive campaign staff about opponents but nothing that can points to big corruption directly on Clinton's part. The media coverage is unexpectedly very low but I can see why media will want to put these rather boring emails front and center while juicy Trump stuff keeps coming out. If anyone has studied these emails, please feel free to comment.

PS: As far as voting is concerned, I'm still in information collection mode and don't support any candidate at this point.

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Post by FireBeyond »

puppetmaster3 wrote: post #264

14 Wikileaks associates are also cut off from the internet: https://twitter.com/danrolle/status/788019208453890048

I love the double standards on that thread:

"This happened! Why? We said so! Gospel truth!"

Interfering with the election?

"Why? Because they said so? Fool!"

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by darawk »

anthony_romeo wrote: post #237

We're in the middle of some crazy propaganda war right now, and it's been this way for quite a while. It became completely transparent when the Podesta e-mails were released mere minutes after Trump's videos regarding possible sexual assault were released. Ever since the DNC leaks and the subsequent accusations against Russia, it became clear to me that, at some point, the attempts to tarnish Wikileaks's name was to…

To be fair, this is just a reasonable strategy on the part of the Clinton campaign. To my knowledge there hasn't yet been anything particularly damaging found in these emails. If I were them, i'd have done the same thing with respect to timing though, it just makes sense when you have a pre-commitment from an adversary to release on a particular date.

I mean, I guess it's a little bit underhanded, but only just barely. If there were something significant in the emails then it still would have been reported on, but as far as I can tell, there wasn't.

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Post by FireBeyond »

mikeash wrote: post #565
FireBeyond wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it wouldn't. SMS is actually a control message on the voice stream (my words might not be precise). You can send SMS with no data connectivity.

I meant in this particular case it would be weird, because it would mean that the perpetrators are somehow blocking mobile data but neglected to block SMS.

Right, and there are ways you can consider the validity of either method, but to block SMS would mean blocking voice.

Perhaps a temporary data hiccup might be a more realistic solution (or simulation, if malicious) versus "Call cannot be connected".

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Post by ryanx435 »

notahacker wrote: post #489
cb18 wrote: post #476

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unfortunately, that would cause a LOT of pain for good everyday people Consider that it is the crooked system that has led you to believe that. See this, newly released, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY shocking stuff.

I consider the unedited content of Trump's speeches to be pretty good evidence of his intent to cause a lot of pain for everyday people.

I consider the unedited content of Trump's speeches to be pretty good evidence of his intent to make america great again.

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Post by gaius »

tptacek wrote: post #579
anthony_romeo wrote: post #237

We're in the middle of some crazy propaganda war right now, and it's been this way for quite a while. It became completely transparent when the Podesta e-mails were released mere minutes after Trump's videos regarding possible sexual assault were released. Ever since the DNC leaks and the subsequent accusations against Russia, it became clear to me that, at some point, the attempts to tarnish Wikileaks's name was to…

The magnitude of the falseness of this equivalence tells you everything you need to know about Wikileaks role in this election. Implied in it is the idea that the Clinton campaign had an obligation to release their opposition research on Trump as soon as they had it. But of course, they have no such obligation: they're not journalists! On the other hand, Wikileaks clearly is structuring their releases to draw out the…

I think Wikileaks is definitely anti-Clinton but it's a stretch to say they're pro-Trump.

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Post by toomuchtodo »

FireBeyond wrote: post #514
toomuchtodo wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UN considers it so, but I was referring to Assange not being able to leave the Ecuadorian embassy for over 4 years.

That's a twisting of language. He's perfectly able to. He _chooses_ not to.

You've just justified first world countries creating an artificial prison for political reasons. I am not surprised, as so many Americans justify and support Guantanamo Bay (and the holding of prisoners without charges or trial indefinitely).

America has become the Black Mirror reflection of itself and its foundational ideals, and is a terrible world role model.

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Post by wbhart »

unixhero wrote: post #131

From the bowels of 4Chan https://i.imgur.com/abcVS6q.jpg

Extradition is a process that involves an extradition court and a right of appeal. There is absolutely no way they are bundling Assange onto a plane without Wikileaks screaming blue murder. This is highly unlikely to be credible.
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