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Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by eumoria »

SCdF wrote: post #428
AvenueIngres wrote: post #370

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1/ Unless you have dumped massive datasets of classified USG data I fail to see how your situation is similar to Assange's. What might be coincidental for you is not when it comes to JA. 2/ Since you post on HN I guess you sure understand that there is no need to alter the physical layer if you want to ostracize a subnetwork from the Internet.

Except as I understand it, he has a dead man's switch set up, so all severing his internet is going to do is have him leak everything anyway. Also, he's not the only person running Wikileaks , he's mostly the public persona, but there are other people who are not stuck in an embassy right?

Yea with this being the case it's a little confusing. If they were going to extradite, though, wouldn't that start with officially taking custody? Aka sort of an arrest meaning taking personal devices/access away? I'm sure it's super complicated...

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Post by PJDK »

a3n wrote: post #448
VMG wrote: post #393

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Maybe not, but I haven't seen confirmations one way or another. I don't know about wireless standards to say whether or not it's possible to selectively disable regions or devices.

For the phone, the Gov would just have to tell the carrier to turn off the acount.

You can literally buy phones from vending machines in the UK.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by ng12 »

dantillberg wrote: post #232

This story only states that Assange told them this along with his suspicion that he's been targeted by some state, not e.g. a tree falling or a jackhammer mis-jackhammering. BBC has not verified any of those claims, and they went and reported it despite the fact that part of it either isn't clear or doesn't make sense -- what does it even mean to have his internet "cut"? This story could just as well turn out to be o…

If it were BT's fault surely they would provide an outage notice?

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Post by swalsh »

mtberatwork wrote: post #434
gragas wrote: post #383

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If hundreds of pieces of direct evidence don't suffice, then I'm not sure what does. The Clinton Foundation has done countless extremely illegal and unethical things. Between CTR, the Bernie fiasco, the fake Craigslist ads, the "public and private" positions, I'm not sure how you can say that HRC isn't trying to create an alternate reality.

Not sure I entirely buy this, Charity Watch gives the Clinton Foundation high marks. [1] You might be able to make some arguments for crossing some ethical lines, but to say they have done "countless extremely illegal and unethical things" is pushing the conspiratorial line. [1] https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillar...

I am so glad the charity is doing something good, but does that justify HOW it got its money [1], and does some good mean the entire organization is built for good?

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-...

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Post by mikeash »

paralelogram wrote: post #418
mikeash wrote: post #249

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That's because there are no facts. We don't even know if the internet was cut in the first place. (One wonders how they managed to post to Twitter without internet access.) The "state actor" part is completely unsubstantiated. The third option you've missed is "this is all bullshit." Either because it's not happening at all, or because the embassy's internet is down due to some routine outage.

It's possible to use Twitter via SMS: https://support.twitter.com/articles/14014

It would be pretty weird if SMS were available but not data.

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Post by VikingCoder »

insickness wrote: post #413
tptacek wrote: post #386

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No, it's pretty well known that Assange claims to have a vendetta against HRC. The details of that vendetta don't make much sense. It's clearly easier for him and his supporters to claim that they're acting out of enmity towards Clinton --- a minor figure in virtually all of Assange's dealings with the US --- than to simply cop to the fact that they are aggressively and overly supporting Donald Trump. Nerddom and the…

You write as if Trump is just as dirty as Clinton and Assange is simply choosing to not release that information. It is possible that Clinton is, as Trump says, the dirtiest candidate in the history of politics. She's been hit with scandal after scandal. And before you say those scandals are a result of partisan witch-hunting, Obama never had these scandals that Hillary did.

> And before you say those scandals are a result of partisan witch-hunting, Obama never had these scandals that Hillary did.

I'm sorry, none of these seem like witch hunts to you?

- He wasn't born in the United States

- He's a Muslim

- Connection to William Ayers

- Connection to Jeremiah Wright

- Connection to ACORN

- IRS targets enemies

- Benghazi

- Fast and Furious

- Solyndra

- Death Panels

- Not saluting soldiers

- Not putting his hand on his heart during anthem

And let me highlight that Colin Powell referred to Benghazi as a "stupid witch hunt".

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/colin-powell-benghazi...

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Post by mejari »

wildmusings wrote: post #443
mejari wrote: post #431

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http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-r... 100%, huh?

Don't twist my words. I said that they have never leaked fake documents. They clearly have an agenda in what they select for publishing. ================================================ In response to mejari (both of his replies) below, I'm rate-limited: ================================================ Did you even read that article? That's not what it says. They just didn't publish the documents. What it does say is…

They faked the documents by editing their contents to remove data they didn't want released. How is that twisting your words to show that your claim they've never leaked fake documents is false?

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Post by mejari »

copperheart wrote: post #450
mejari wrote: post #391

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And yet he won't release it so we can be sure of that, while we just have to know Podesta's risotto recipe.

The importance of the leaked Podesta emails is much greater than simply learning about a recipe.

According to some. To others there's not really much in there other than some unsavory, but not unusual, political maneuvering.

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Post by wbhart »

chvid wrote: post #427
mikeash wrote: post #337

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The whole story was prompted by a non-ironic tweet that their internet was cut off, so it fits.

As the embassy is in the middle of London why can't anyone (a journalist maybe) pop by and see what is going on? Or maybe just call by phone?

The actual article states that the BBC tried to contact the embassy by phone, but the staff there are not authorised to comment. They have thus far been unable to raise the ambassador by email. People have been down there by foot, and there is apparently nothing to see.

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Post by AlexCoventry »

tptacek wrote: post #386
edanm wrote: post #369

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It's pretty well known that Assange has a vendetta against Hillary Clinton. Just searching for Assange Clinton on Google brings up lots of articles on the subject.

No, it's pretty well known that Assange claims to have a vendetta against HRC. The details of that vendetta don't make much sense. It's clearly easier for him and his supporters to claim that they're acting out of enmity towards Clinton --- a minor figure in virtually all of Assange's dealings with the US --- than to simply cop to the fact that they are aggressively and overly supporting Donald Trump. Nerddom and the…

FWIW, he's said he'd be happy to publish damaging info regarding Trump, too.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/29176...

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