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Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by daveFNbuck » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:14 PM UTC

insickness wrote: post #413

tptacek wrote: post #386

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No, it's pretty well known that Assange claims to have a vendetta against HRC. The details of that vendetta don't make much sense. It's clearly easier for him and his supporters to claim that they're acting out of enmity towards Clinton --- a minor figure in virtually all of Assange's dealings with the US --- than to simply cop to the fact that they are aggressively and overly supporting Donald Trump. Nerddom and the…

You write as if Trump is just as dirty as Clinton and Assange is simply choosing to not release that information. It is possible that Clinton is, as Trump says, the dirtiest candidate in the history of politics. She's been hit with scandal after scandal. And before you say those scandals are a result of partisan witch-hunting, Obama never had these scandals that Hillary did.

The Republicans have spent decades and hundreds of millions of dollars investigating Hillary and so far, nothing has stuck. She may actually be the cleanest candidate in the history of politics.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by NetStrikeForce » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:14 PM UTC

duskwuff wrote: post #304

mikeash wrote: post #213

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They can't possibly isolate it to just Assange, so it must be the whole embassy. My money is on this being an errant backhoe or similar, and Assange is just turning it into a big deal because he can.

If it's a backhoe operated by the London Utility Commission, does that count as a "state actor"? :)

Probably BT just fucked up and WL thinks they're still state owned ;-)

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by wildmusings » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:14 PM UTC

mejari wrote: post #431

wildmusings wrote: post #216

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Not necessarily. If she is fearful of very damaging leaks in the pipeline, Clinton would want to make sure that, at the very least, they don't come out through Wikileaks, which has a 100% track record of real leaks and can't be denied.

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-r... 100%, huh?

Don't twist my words. I said that they have never leaked fake documents. They clearly have an agenda in what they select for publishing.

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Did you even read that article? That's not what it says. They just didn't publish the documents. What it does say is that the hackers that stole the documents were joking about editing them before sending them to wikileaks.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by thesimpsons1022 » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:15 PM UTC

joshuaheard wrote: post #319

HillRat wrote: post #260

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On the other hand, "state actor" could certainly refer to Ecuador deciding to turn off Assange's access. WikiLeaks tends to be fairly economical with the truth about its own operations, so being purposefully ambiguous isn't anything new for them. And, while Ecuador hasn't had to deal with meaningful diplomatic repercussions from sheltering Assange, the high-profile role WL is taking in the 2016 elections, and specifi…

I don't think Assange is a partisan. He's Australian after all and has no stake in this election. I think he is releasing info on Hillary because that is what he has and is timing the release for maximum public exposure. If he had similar info on Trump, I firmly believe he would be doing the same thing.

i think it is pretty silly to say he has no stake in the election. almost everyone on in the world has a stake in who the american president is. even if it didn't have a direct effect on him, he is extremely idealogical and sees it as himself fighting against the global elite.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by monocasa » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:15 PM UTC

smazero wrote: post #432

monocasa wrote: post #377

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To be fair, it's because Clinton and her staff have called both publicly and privately for him to be executed, extrajudicially if need be. I'd have a grudge too.

That's a rather extraordinary statement to make without providing any substantiation! I had a quick search around to see what I could find, and I did find a recent tweet from Wikileaks showing a clip from some pundit on Fox News called Bob Beckel calling for exactly that: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/763380671796678656/vide... But a little further checking showed that despite this being tweeted in August this…

It was initially in 2010 in response to the Manning leaks.

http://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wiki...

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by onetimeusename » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:15 PM UTC

dharma1 wrote: post #411

snewk wrote: post #380

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i dont think that necessarily makes him 'pro trump'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/how-julia... https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/14/wiileaks-from-...

from the bloomberg article:

>Sarah Harrison, a British journalist and a longtime WikiLeaks editor, says that the organization would publish documents damaging to Trump if it had them.

The bloomberg article also quoted someone from reddit as evidence that the right wing was 'shivering in anticipation' of leaks damaging to clinton. It's not great journalism and seems biased but it doesn't seem there is any evidence that assange is pro trump.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by edanm » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:15 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #386

edanm wrote: post #369

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It's pretty well known that Assange has a vendetta against Hillary Clinton. Just searching for Assange Clinton on Google brings up lots of articles on the subject.

No, it's pretty well known that Assange claims to have a vendetta against HRC. The details of that vendetta don't make much sense. It's clearly easier for him and his supporters to claim that they're acting out of enmity towards Clinton --- a minor figure in virtually all of Assange's dealings with the US --- than to simply cop to the fact that they are aggressively and overly supporting Donald Trump. Nerddom and the…

Interesting. I was under the impression that it was mostly a vendetta against Clinton, not support of Trump. I don't pay that much attention to Assange or Wikileaks to be honest, I personally find quite a lot of what they do distasteful.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by a3n » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:16 PM UTC

VMG wrote: post #393

PJDK wrote: post #358

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Yeah, but not secretly while in the middle of central london

Maybe not, but I haven't seen confirmations one way or another. I don't know about wireless standards to say whether or not it's possible to selectively disable regions or devices.

For the phone, the Gov would just have to tell the carrier to turn off the acount.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by lostlogin » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:16 PM UTC

sanjeetsuhag wrote: post #425

monocasa wrote: post #377

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To be fair, it's because Clinton and her staff have called both publicly and privately for him to be executed, extrajudicially if need be. I'd have a grudge too.

I'd like a source on Clinton herself calling for Assange's execution.

The best I could find is a bit weak as it's second hand. "Can't we just drone this guy". http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/clinton-assange-drone/

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by copperheart » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 5:16 PM UTC

mejari wrote: post #391

jeffmould wrote: post #382

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Assange actually has said that he has info on Trump, however, the info is nothing worse than what Trump already says publicly. ( http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/08/27/wikileaks-info-dona... )

And yet he won't release it so we can be sure of that, while we just have to know Podesta's risotto recipe.

The importance of the leaked Podesta emails is much greater than simply learning about a recipe.