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Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by jsutton »

gragas wrote: post #383
alistproducer2 wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>We're in the middle of some crazy propaganda war right now Agreed. It's like some people somewhere woke up and realized hiring some script kiddies to hack old people that use the same password for all their accounts is a lot cheaper and easier than old-fashioned espionage. The frenzied pace at which all of this is happening reminds me a child with a new toy. >gaslighting from both sides I disagree that Clinton is tr…

If hundreds of pieces of direct evidence don't suffice, then I'm not sure what does. The Clinton Foundation has done countless extremely illegal and unethical things. Between CTR, the Bernie fiasco, the fake Craigslist ads, the "public and private" positions, I'm not sure how you can say that HRC isn't trying to create an alternate reality.

What are the countless and extremely illegal and unethical things?

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by jacquesm »

tptacek wrote: post #386
edanm wrote: post #369

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It's pretty well known that Assange has a vendetta against Hillary Clinton. Just searching for Assange Clinton on Google brings up lots of articles on the subject.

No, it's pretty well known that Assange claims to have a vendetta against HRC. The details of that vendetta don't make much sense. It's clearly easier for him and his supporters to claim that they're acting out of enmity towards Clinton --- a minor figure in virtually all of Assange's dealings with the US --- than to simply cop to the fact that they are aggressively and overly supporting Donald Trump. Nerddom and the…

> The simple fact is that Assange is campaigning for Donald Trump.

One possible explanation for this is that Assange will support the candidate that he believes will hurt US interests most.

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Post by pera »

weavie wrote: post #320
jacquesm wrote: post #127

- Is the whole embassy shut down? - Is there any direct reason for the timing (US elections, attack on Mosul or other current headlines)? - Was there any imminent release? (last week there was an announcement of a leak but it didn't materialize as far as I know) http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13159914/wikileaks-hillary... - You'd assume that Wikileaks the organization will continue to work even without Assange hav…

Even if the embassy was shut down surely just a cheap smart phone would rectify the situation and get him back online. Are they somehow blocking mobile signals as well?

I don't see any comments on their Twitter account, and their are active (there is a retweet 55m ago): https://twitter.com/EmbajadaEcuUK

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Post by DougN7 »

tomp wrote: post #332
pavlov wrote: post #221

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Yeah, the best way to cure a flu is to shoot yourself in the head.

Hillary => no change. Trump => change. Positive or negative? Who knows...

I personally think Clinton will be worse than Obama or Bush when it comes to any issue involving ethics.

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Post by jordanbaucke »

jonlucc wrote: post #313
HillRat wrote: post #260

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On the other hand, "state actor" could certainly refer to Ecuador deciding to turn off Assange's access. WikiLeaks tends to be fairly economical with the truth about its own operations, so being purposefully ambiguous isn't anything new for them. And, while Ecuador hasn't had to deal with meaningful diplomatic repercussions from sheltering Assange, the high-profile role WL is taking in the 2016 elections, and specifi…

It just may turn out that the embassy changed the wi-fi password and didn't give him the new one.

Assange and Ecuadorian ambassador (crawling under desk in office):

Assange: "Unplug it and plug it back in" Ambassador: "I did" Assange: "Are the lights blinking?" Ambassador: "Some of them..." Assange: "Which ones..." Ambassador: "Why am I doing this?" Assange: "Which lights?" Ambassador: "All of them..."

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Post by criley2 »

steamer25 wrote: post #301
leereeves wrote: post #173

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Is it really unlawful or did CNN lie about that?

The anchor is tweeting about his side of the story: https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo . E.g., https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/788025611730227201 I am not a lawyer but I'd say this is a legal gray area. The leaker probably broke a law. E.g., hacking Podesta's private emails would have been illegal under computer fraud and abuse. It's alternately possible that the leaker had legal access but breached contract to rel…

>A central theme of the leaks so far is that large segments of the media have been overly cooperative with the Clinton campaign in spite of feigned objectivity.

This is a nice bit of propaganda you've put forth here.

Here's a Harvard study into the majority of the 2016 election coverage including primaries which shows a demonstrably strong bias in the media pro-Trump and anti-Clinton and demonstrates that Clinton has received a FAR more harsh relationship with the major press.

http://shorensteincenter.org/pre-primary-news-coverage-2016-...

http://shorensteincenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/figu...

It demonstrates that coverage of Clinton was on average negative about her for the entirety of 2015.

It demonstrates that Trump enjoyed a very positive and cushy relationship with newsmedia who combined to give him hundreds of millions USD of free exposure.

I would argue that Clinton has had mostly negative coverage up until the end of September 2016.

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Post by markwaldron »

What are the odds that Donald Trump has reached out to Assange and made a deal with him? I don't think it would be outside the realm of possibility that Trump would say if he won he'd push for the US to drop charges against Assange (although that doesn't clear him of the charges brought by other countries) in return for Assange releasing whatever information he has on Hillary leading up to the election.

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Post by Tomte »

Ecuadorian president Correa is outgoing, not running for another term. There will be a new president in a few months and it is almost inconceivable that a new president could be nearly as accomodating as Correa towards Assange.

Something is going to happen in the next few months. Question is, how much agency does Assange really have left?

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