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I am getting so damn sick of all of the corruption we're seeing in governments all around the world, including the US/UK. Makes me want to vote for Trump and take the whole crooked system down (unfortunately, that would cause a LOT of pain for good everyday people).
My understanding is that we do not have any proofs of life from Assange. It could be many things: assassination, deal with Ecuador, extradition by Ecuador or someone else, simply an internet censorship, a PR stunt by Assange. All is possible. This guy lives a fucking dystopian nightmare.
Yea or it could just be the internet is down. It happens to regular people all the time.
Does anyone honestly believe Hillary is not involved in this? She has shown time and time again that there is nothing she won't do to get what she wants and cling on to power.
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This particular 4channer posted this well before Assange's internet was cut. We now have complete radio silence from for >12 hours and embassy employees are no longer allowed to talk about him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_jhLcvoZqc
> embassy employees are no longer allowed to talk about him "no longer" ? It's quite likely that they were never allowed to talk about him
I guess time will tell.
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Assange has a lot more enemies than the ones you choose to believe. Considering the Panama Papers were pretty much a long expose of Russian and Middle-East corruption, much moreso than the West, I suspect a lot of angry autocrats and dictators would like a piece of him too and they're not shy about war crimes or assassinating journalists. The leaks he's released target dozens of nations. He has a lot of enemies: http…
Yeah, because killing Assange would re-hide the documents. Brilliant. I'm sure they wouldn't shed any tears but it's unlikely they'll try to draw more attention to themselves. There's really only one group large enough to do what they want, damn the consequences.
Did this stop Putin from murdering x amount of journalists? I suspect chilling speech is the ultimate goal and some petty revenge as well. Also maintaining the perception of being a "strong man" ruler who does whatever he wants.
>There's really only one group large enough to do what they want
I think you're vastly underestimate the intelligence agencies of many countries here. The CIA bogeyman gets you instant upvotes on reddit/HN but the reality is that the top 30 or so nations have impressive intelligence organizations with far reaching abilities. Cutting an internet line at an embassy in London isn't exactly the moon landing here.
Until we hear some technical details of some vast and highly technical attack that only the US can perform, I'll remain skeptical of such claims. The reality is that cutting or DDOS'ing lines is a trivial attack. This isn't Stuxnet and you guys know it.
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No, I don't believe it, but it is a possibility I had not thought of and the fact that Assange's internet access has been shut off lends at least a little bit of credibility to the comments (note how that post was made already 8 hours ago). also , why would I believe some anonymous HN'er about anything. Information is either true or false, the source isn't really relevant, all that matters are the facts.
>Information is either true or false, the source isn't really relevant, all that matters are the facts. Absurd. Of course your sources matter. A credible source is more believable than an incredible source. Ever heard of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? Looking only at the material presented and not at the presenter of the material is only giving you part of the picture.
Possible facts:
Assange has had his internet access shut down (probably true)
Assange has been extradited (status unknown at this point, you seem to want to discredit it based on the source I simply withhold my judgment until there is more information about this)
My understanding is that we do not have any proofs of life from Assange. It could be many things: assassination, deal with Ecuador, extradition by Ecuador or someone else, simply an internet censorship, a PR stunt by Assange. All is possible. This guy lives a fucking dystopian nightmare.
It could be any of these things. It could also be BT OpenReach.
How much is a 4G dataplan in London? Even when he uses 100GB that should be payable by them. Is that blocked as well? Then they have to block out that area, and that won't go unnoticed.
> so what exactly will this accomplish… Many things! Instill a fear may be. Demonstrate their power to kill at will and their willingness to do so. Prevent outing of more truths about the Silicon Valley-Washington DC alliance. Meh. Let the downvotes begin… :)
Shutting down internet is far from 'killing at will' tbf. They could already do that, it's just an embassy in a country with a decent military. Of course, the political backlash would be rather severe, not nearly as much as 'just' some hacking which doesn't cause direct loss of life and which is often conveniently untraceable.
Next they'll be threatening to quit Twitter!
... South Park?
... nobody?
... I'll be in my trailer.