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Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by jacquesm »

SamBam wrote: post #303
jacquesm wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, sources matter if all you do is to look at the information and it's source. But if you look at the information and you can find independent verification of rejection of the information then you can form a conclusion that is a lot stronger than just speculation based on info+source. Possible facts: Assange has had his internet access shut down (probably true) Assange has been extradited (status unknown at this po…

> Assange has had his internet access shut down (probably true) What basis do you have for the (probably true) rating? The man literally told people he rescheduled his election-changing news conference from a balcony to a middle-of-the-night webcast, because he thought a sniper was going to kill him on the balcony. As if this was likely. Then it turned out his election-changing news conference was an advert for his b…

Because he could easily prove his internet access wasn't shut down by sending out a message to the contrary. Also the Ecuadorian embassy could deny it.

Absent any proof that he actually has access I'm going on the assumption that he does not because that is what they claim.

Now whether or not it really is a state actor (could be Ecuador!), Assange's laptop frying the network card or some other reason why he hasn't got access (didn't pay the phone bill?) is up for grabs.

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Post by tomp »

pavlov wrote: post #221
DougN7 wrote: post #187

I am getting so damn sick of all of the corruption we're seeing in governments all around the world, including the US/UK. Makes me want to vote for Trump and take the whole crooked system down (unfortunately, that would cause a LOT of pain for good everyday people).

Yeah, the best way to cure a flu is to shoot yourself in the head.

Hillary => no change. Trump => change. Positive or negative? Who knows...

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by jsprogrammer »

raesene6 wrote: post #317

hmm I would suggest there's something more to this than "Internet cut off". There's pretty much no chance you could cut off all connectivity from a building in the heart of london ( https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Embassy+of+Ecuador/@51.4... ) From that location you have Base station's covering all 4 major UK mobile networks and I'd guess a large number of wi-fi hotspots. So to "cut off" internet access, you've g…

Maybe the embassy cut him off?

It's not unlikely that a person could be targeted to have communications access disrupted across multiple devices and networks.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by nickff »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #286
1986 wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True Pundit is not in any way shape or form a reliable source and this quote is completely unsourced.

Hillary said[0] that she didn't recall joking about it, but that if she did say it, it would have been a joke . [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTht4G4yJs

To be clear, this is coming from a woman who has repeatedly told bald-faced lies; anything short of a complete denial is a confirmation.

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Post by sleepybrett »

tomp wrote: post #140
rimantas wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you suggest Sweden should interview him? Attack an embassy?

He's repeatedly offered to be interviewed in the UK (before he was jailed in the embassy), and Ecuador has offered (at least publicly) for him to be allowed to be interviewed in the embassy.

He isn't jailed in the embassy, he's escaping jail by hiding in the embassy.

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Post by berntb »

throwaway98237 wrote: post #327
berntb wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the laws of war is different when you have civilians as your main targets? Here is my standard reference about the subject. Note that it is critical of the US -- and that ROE is still followed quite closely. Compare that to [terrorists and non democracies]. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v25/n04/michael-byers/the-laws-of-war-u... (Are you really surprised by the content of this answer..?) ---- Edit: My answer to throwa…

I deleted my comment because I didn't see a reply from you and wasn't certain my comment was correctly speaking to your points because I just don't get your comment. Since I wasn't certain my response was speaking to the points, I removed it so as not to muddy the conversation. Don't appreciate your aggressive tone.

Like this, then:

You started by arguing that following the laws of war is terrorism. That subject of law have been really discussed, there are lots of academic papers. I'd be happy to see references?

And your follow up was just not possible to parse. Please read Byer's article, it taught me a lot on the subject.

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Post by mikeash »

malz wrote: post #307
jacquesm wrote: post #127

- Is the whole embassy shut down? - Is there any direct reason for the timing (US elections, attack on Mosul or other current headlines)? - Was there any imminent release? (last week there was an announcement of a leak but it didn't materialize as far as I know) http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13159914/wikileaks-hillary... - You'd assume that Wikileaks the organization will continue to work even without Assange hav…

I don't know about the embassy but I enjoy the non-ironic claim that "The ambassador has not yet responded to emails."

The whole story was prompted by a non-ironic tweet that their internet was cut off, so it fits.

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Post by SCdF »

Instead of jumping on this as a giant conspiracy, it might be worth considering that it's just that his internet went down.

I mean, until there is actual evidence that Hillary Clinton[1] deployed a highly trained collection of seals (the animal, not the US military contingent) to cut through his tube wires in the death of the night and then pelt across hide park and hide in the serpentine, perhaps we should just consider that public services in the UK are incompetent.

My internet went down last week, you don't see me reaching for the anti-seal spray.

[1] Well, the robot that replaced Hillary Clinton obviously, as we all know she's been dead for 20 years

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Post by VMG »

weavie wrote: post #320
jacquesm wrote: post #127

- Is the whole embassy shut down? - Is there any direct reason for the timing (US elections, attack on Mosul or other current headlines)? - Was there any imminent release? (last week there was an announcement of a leak but it didn't materialize as far as I know) http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13159914/wikileaks-hillary... - You'd assume that Wikileaks the organization will continue to work even without Assange hav…

Even if the embassy was shut down surely just a cheap smart phone would rectify the situation and get him back online. Are they somehow blocking mobile signals as well?

State actors can jam the spectrum and make wireless communication impossible.

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Post by AndyNemmity »

weavie wrote: post #320
jacquesm wrote: post #127

- Is the whole embassy shut down? - Is there any direct reason for the timing (US elections, attack on Mosul or other current headlines)? - Was there any imminent release? (last week there was an announcement of a leak but it didn't materialize as far as I know) http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13159914/wikileaks-hillary... - You'd assume that Wikileaks the organization will continue to work even without Assange hav…

Even if the embassy was shut down surely just a cheap smart phone would rectify the situation and get him back online. Are they somehow blocking mobile signals as well?

A perisope user went into the embassy and said their mobile stopped working while inside.

Random, unverified claim, but all we have.

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