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.NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by facorreia »

elorant wrote: post #43

Windows 10 is a clusterfuck of an OS. Installed it on my dad’s PC, a simple machine with browsing software and a few arcade games. Didn’t go with the full install, instead did an upgrade from Win7. Everything was honky dory until it downloaded a ginormous 1GB update. The update failed and now every time he shuts down the update tries to install again. It takes north of five minutes to shut down. Install, fail, rollba…

You can recover from these repeated update failures by deleting SoftwareDistribution\Download inside the Windows directory. Search the web for details.

This kind of problem (which, I agree, happens often on different machines) is one of the main reasons I don't use Windows for working anymore.

On my gaming PC, I set windows update to just notify me about updates, but not download or install them automatically.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by crawdingle »

elorant wrote: post #43

Windows 10 is a clusterfuck of an OS. Installed it on my dad’s PC, a simple machine with browsing software and a few arcade games. Didn’t go with the full install, instead did an upgrade from Win7. Everything was honky dory until it downloaded a ginormous 1GB update. The update failed and now every time he shuts down the update tries to install again. It takes north of five minutes to shut down. Install, fail, rollba…

I was having this same issue with my Mom's PC and the Anniversary update, turns out it was having issues with one of the connected USB devices.

I ended up unplugging everything USB after I started the shutdown and it finally completed successfully.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by aargh_aargh »

UncleSlacky wrote: post #21
Jdam wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Paint.NET is what I'm missing on my Mac so much.

It was my understanding that Pinta is essentially Paint.NET, and is available on Mac as well as Linux and Windows: https://pinta-project.com/pintaproject/pinta/

Well, it's like comparing a go-kart to a sportscar. Pinta crashes on me a lot and has a fraction of the features.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by pjmlp »

elorant wrote: post #43

Windows 10 is a clusterfuck of an OS. Installed it on my dad’s PC, a simple machine with browsing software and a few arcade games. Didn’t go with the full install, instead did an upgrade from Win7. Everything was honky dory until it downloaded a ginormous 1GB update. The update failed and now every time he shuts down the update tries to install again. It takes north of five minutes to shut down. Install, fail, rollba…

The OS is great, only macOS offers a similar OO ABI for the OS stack.

Also I do have quite a few war stories from failed GNU/Linux updates, that eventually lead me to always keep /home on a separate partition and wipe everything else.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by pritambaral »

wubbfindel wrote: post #46
scandox wrote: post #30

The real story here is the forced updates. How do people who are planning demos and presentations handle this? It's my worst nightmare.

If your using Windows 10 Professional or above, you can change the Local Group Policy to prompt you for both downloading and installing updates. For lower versions (like "Home"), there is a way to tell it that your connection is "Metered" and then updated won't be downloaded automatically; but that's not an official method to prevent updates.

For public information: Wired connections cannot be set as "metered". Only wireless ones.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by valarauca1 »

pjmlp wrote: post #54
elorant wrote: post #43

Windows 10 is a clusterfuck of an OS. Installed it on my dad’s PC, a simple machine with browsing software and a few arcade games. Didn’t go with the full install, instead did an upgrade from Win7. Everything was honky dory until it downloaded a ginormous 1GB update. The update failed and now every time he shuts down the update tries to install again. It takes north of five minutes to shut down. Install, fail, rollba…

The OS is great, only macOS offers a similar OO ABI for the OS stack. Also I do have quite a few war stories from failed GNU/Linux updates, that eventually lead me to always keep /home on a separate partition and wipe everything else.

Keeping /home on its own disk is Unix101

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by pjmlp »

Yaggo wrote: post #24
IshKebab wrote: post #17

> Before I did manage to install a fresh system on my laptop I had to disable UEFI, create valid partitions with special flags etc. it took me a while to figure this out, yet it wasn’t that difficult. Ha, right here is why "the year of the Linux desktop" will never happen. It's basically a kit car. Some people may find it "not that difficult" to weld a chassis together and rebuild an engine, but it's never going to b…

"The year of the Linux desktop" already happened, but in the meantime desktop got so small that you can put it in your pocket. It never would have been happened without commercialization of the Linux desktop (Android), so your kit car analogy holds.

Good luck running desktop GNU/Linux stuff properly on Android/Linux.

The set of APIs exposed to the NDK is so constrained that Google can replace the Linux kernel with something else and only OEMs writing drivers will notice.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by pjmlp »

valarauca1 wrote: post #56
pjmlp wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OS is great, only macOS offers a similar OO ABI for the OS stack. Also I do have quite a few war stories from failed GNU/Linux updates, that eventually lead me to always keep /home on a separate partition and wipe everything else.

Keeping /home on its own disk is Unix101

My first UNIX was called Xenix....

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by drvdevd »

creshal wrote: post #38
drvdevd wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it can be hard for us (people who get a lot of screen time, spend a lot of time coding in 2D) to imagine that the "desktop" paradigm is already dead. Mobile/voice/AR is killing it. Granted the desktop UI metaphor will probably never die, just like the command line hasn't. But the front-and-center desktop is fading away...

I'm not so sure. If you took a drink every time you read "sorry for the short answer, I'm on mobile, I will edit it when I'm back on a real computer" on HN or reddit, your liver would die faster than Windows Phone. There's still a place for devices with lots of screen space and real input devices, and not just in the IT community (unlike with command line interfaces).

I suppose I'm hoping for a point in the near future where AR/VR type glasses (or something like that) can be used with high enough fidelity and resolution to replace my desktop, physically. Coupled with virtualization and a good keyboard, I think the PC form factor could be fully obviated.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by jameskegel »

tychuz wrote: post #44
grive wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to see why snark is warranted here. Linux should not have to conform to Microsoft anti-competitive practices. UEFI is a mess to deal with because Microsoft wanted to lock users. Yes, this will prevent Linux on the desktop. That doesn't mean it will never happen.

It's always not Linux' problem.

Can you clarify this statement?
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