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.NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by pmlnr »

Yaggo wrote: post #24
IshKebab wrote: post #17

> Before I did manage to install a fresh system on my laptop I had to disable UEFI, create valid partitions with special flags etc. it took me a while to figure this out, yet it wasn’t that difficult. Ha, right here is why "the year of the Linux desktop" will never happen. It's basically a kit car. Some people may find it "not that difficult" to weld a chassis together and rebuild an engine, but it's never going to b…

"The year of the Linux desktop" already happened, but in the meantime desktop got so small that you can put it in your pocket. It never would have been happened without commercialization of the Linux desktop (Android), so your kit car analogy holds.

It happened when Windows XP got discontinued.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by elorant »

Windows 10 is a clusterfuck of an OS. Installed it on my dad’s PC, a simple machine with browsing software and a few arcade games. Didn’t go with the full install, instead did an upgrade from Win7. Everything was honky dory until it downloaded a ginormous 1GB update. The update failed and now every time he shuts down the update tries to install again. It takes north of five minutes to shut down. Install, fail, rollback, then shutdown. Every single time. I even tried to install the update manually but failed again. I don’t have time for this shit.

I’ll give them a couple of years to polish .NET on Linux and then I’m off Windows. I love C#, VS and everything Microsoft produces on the developer front but the OS is fucking toxic.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by tychuz »

grive wrote: post #23
IshKebab wrote: post #17

> Before I did manage to install a fresh system on my laptop I had to disable UEFI, create valid partitions with special flags etc. it took me a while to figure this out, yet it wasn’t that difficult. Ha, right here is why "the year of the Linux desktop" will never happen. It's basically a kit car. Some people may find it "not that difficult" to weld a chassis together and rebuild an engine, but it's never going to b…

I fail to see why snark is warranted here. Linux should not have to conform to Microsoft anti-competitive practices. UEFI is a mess to deal with because Microsoft wanted to lock users. Yes, this will prevent Linux on the desktop. That doesn't mean it will never happen.

It's always not Linux' problem.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

#46

Post by wubbfindel »

scandox wrote: post #30

The real story here is the forced updates. How do people who are planning demos and presentations handle this? It's my worst nightmare.

If your using Windows 10 Professional or above, you can change the Local Group Policy to prompt you for both downloading and installing updates.

For lower versions (like "Home"), there is a way to tell it that your connection is "Metered" and then updated won't be downloaded automatically; but that's not an official method to prevent updates.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by croon »

scandox wrote: post #30

The real story here is the forced updates. How do people who are planning demos and presentations handle this? It's my worst nightmare.

Group policy editor.

You can configure it to not update while anyone is logged in, only manual, at a set time, etc. It's just not in any of the "usual" settings menues. Likely rationalized by average users not disabling security updates by accident or something.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

#48

Post by douche »

elorant wrote: post #43

Windows 10 is a clusterfuck of an OS. Installed it on my dad’s PC, a simple machine with browsing software and a few arcade games. Didn’t go with the full install, instead did an upgrade from Win7. Everything was honky dory until it downloaded a ginormous 1GB update. The update failed and now every time he shuts down the update tries to install again. It takes north of five minutes to shut down. Install, fail, rollba…

Trying to upgrade an operating system is almost always a good way to ensure you're going to have a bad time.

Copy any files you care about off, wipe the disk, and install from scratch. This is also usually worth doing with an OEM machine, to get rid of all the crap and weirdly configured partitions they set them up with.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by pwelch »

douche wrote: post #48
elorant wrote: post #43

Windows 10 is a clusterfuck of an OS. Installed it on my dad’s PC, a simple machine with browsing software and a few arcade games. Didn’t go with the full install, instead did an upgrade from Win7. Everything was honky dory until it downloaded a ginormous 1GB update. The update failed and now every time he shuts down the update tries to install again. It takes north of five minutes to shut down. Install, fail, rollba…

Trying to upgrade an operating system is almost always a good way to ensure you're going to have a bad time. Copy any files you care about off, wipe the disk, and install from scratch. This is also usually worth doing with an OEM machine, to get rid of all the crap and weirdly configured partitions they set them up with.

I agree but I'm mildly surprised when an upgrading OSX or Linux instead of a fresh install always works fine.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by draw_down »

I'm not a huge fan of Linux as an everyday desktop OS, but god, Windows is so awful. It's nice to know the .NET ecosystem is so different from what it was like back when I used to work in C#, and was pretty much forced to use Windows for that reason.
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