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Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

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Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

#72

    > I was expecting it to cause a redirect to the original
    > article. Instead it redirects back to Google search
    > results. Say What?
Well, what it does is exactly what I would expect; if clicking 'X' redirected to the author's site I would be thoroughly confused.

If I click on a link and it opens in a new tab, I don't close the tab ('X') expecting to go to the home page - I expect to go back to the page from which I opened it.

Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

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post #70

AMP is essentially Google's answer to people creating terrible web experiences. It's been discussed and documented a lot. Common webpages today load content from dozens of different ad, tracking and whatever hosts, take several megabytes to load. All well known, but people don't stop doing it. Now Google comes along and says: You can't do it, let us do it. Which is perfectly reasonable from their point of view. And w…

What's stopping Google from promoting fast webpages without AMP? I have spent weeks improving load times for my websites, with A A A A A ratings op webpagetest.org as a result. AMP is just a fraction faster, why should I have to create a seperate AMP version?

Also, my websites are essentially all dynamic content. People come for the comments, like on HN. I gues I'll have to use some cache-busting javascript if Google caches my content?

Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

#75
post #3

Well, considering that said traffic originated from Google, and that Google was under no obligation to send it to OP's page, it's a little more nuanced than "stealing". It just means they sent different behaving traffic than usual - traffic that only touches one article and returns to Google. It might discourage webmasters from adopting AMP though, if they have the expectation to lead the visitor to the homepage or o…

Google is not stealing traffic but it is stealing content by displaying it out of the original servers control. The real cost of a website is not hosting it but filling it with things people want to read. Content creators will want to get benefits such as ad revenue to compensate for their effort.

    > Google is not stealing traffic but it is stealing
    > content
If I'm an applemonger, and I send you out on a bike to deliver my apples, you haven't stolen my apples.

Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

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post #11

It's not your site any more. You're just a free content provider to Google now.

When I heard about AMP, I didn't get warm fuzzies. I didn't exactly know how or why, but something told me that the main benefactor with this technology was Google, not the user, and certainly not the content provider. I can make pages faster without AMP by stripping the needless bloat and using a proper CDN. Why do I need this tech again, besides the artificial goad of page rank?

> I can make pages faster without AMP by stripping the needless bloat and using a proper CDN

You can. In theory. But people don't, as is evident with the web we have today. So Google comes along and tries to force people to do it. AMP wouldn't exist if people would've optimized their webpages on their own.

Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

#77
post #35

The whole idea of AMP seems like it's really the wrong way to solve the problem. If you remove all the third party JavaScript, fonts, large images and "like" buttons you'll have effectively the same. I guess it already messes up ads and analytics (although I'd assume Google's services still work), so what's the problem? Kind of related: I recently switched my blog from Wordpress to Hugo. I found a minimal theme, but…

In the last 5 years there was NO WORDPRESS THEME OR PLUGIN that I didn't have to modify. I never saw any WP theme that comes with minified CSS/JS, handles sidebars correctly - sidebar created after post content, generated by PHP not JS, generates correct tags, even one "modern" theme had links in sidebar with "nofollow"... "SEO-friendly" plugins that make blog generation time 3-5 times longer than before, of course J…

> Joomla had a few security issues that developers refuse to fix

Care to elaborate on this?

Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

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post #11

It's not your site any more. You're just a free content provider to Google now.

It's odd, I feel like we're going into a Google vs Facebook webs. Each trying to control its part of the virtual world.

I'm really really curious about how it would be if we had "free" mesh networks under ipfs like content. It wouldn't need to be high capacity, just text, mail, json; enough to communicate.

Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

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post #70

AMP is essentially Google's answer to people creating terrible web experiences. It's been discussed and documented a lot. Common webpages today load content from dozens of different ad, tracking and whatever hosts, take several megabytes to load. All well known, but people don't stop doing it. Now Google comes along and says: You can't do it, let us do it. Which is perfectly reasonable from their point of view. And w…

Every time I look at a website its shocking how no one even does basic image optimisation using PS on the images.

This is such a trivial optimisation it makes you wonder about the level of competency of the average web development company.

Re: Google May Be Stealing Mobile Traffic

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That techies like me dont rely on them any more You're going to have to cite some data for that bold assertion. Lot's of techies outside of your bubble still use (and rely) on Google.

I'm drawing a distinction between use/rely and how it was previously. Does anyone still have google search as their home page? And if they do, do they use it? When was the last time you got past the first page of results? (and btw, its so rare that that people do now did you know if you get past the first couple of pages it checks whether you are a bot). Im contrasting how it used to be (reading google results making…

You are wildly extrapolating from your own experience. I'll provide a counter anecdote.

Google is my home page, I use it so often I don't think about using it. I can't think of one thing I've searched for this morning. But opening my history reveals half a dozen things I've searched for. Most of the time I "knew" my destination but google gets there quickest.

And I'm not sure I ever remember spending a long time reading google results, for me google became my go to precisely because it was so quick I didn't have to spend long just get to the results.

It's true that social media provides a lot of traffic to places around the web but search is still huge.

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