"Bob Dylan hasn't Recanted Praise for Rabbi Meir Kahane.Yes, you read that right. Bob Dylan said Meir Kahane, who favored the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland and whose racist Kach party has since been banned from Israeli politics, is “a really sincere guy” who’s “really put it all together.”
https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/bob-dylan-joins...
The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan
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#322I can't help but come back to: A South politician preaches to the poor white man "You got more than blacks, don't complain You're better than them, you been born with white skin" they explain And the Negro's name Is used it is plain For the politician's gain As he rises to fame And the poor white remains On the caboose of the train But it ain't him to blame He's only a pawn in their game. YouTube: https://m.youtube.c…
Randy Newman says that racism and bigotry are not just limited to southern politicians and that it is a universal problem, at least that's what he says with 'rednecks'; i think that Randy would really deserve the price, but you can't get one for humour/satire, as satire is considered to be a minor muse. My guess is that Dylan got the price because his generation is aging and they want a statement of that it all reall…
It did matter in a larger sense. This is a so much better world than it was 60 years ago.
We still have a long way to go, but imagine if we wouldn't have taken all the small steps that actually were taken, and imagine if we wouldn't have had the leaders and singers that gave us a direction.
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#323My main complaint about Dylan is his terrible singing voice. Imagine what could have been if he had swallowed his pride and teamed with a great singer! Of course, this complaint is invalid for a literature prize, so I can only say it's well deserved. Maybe this can open up for film and TV writers to be considered. They're the ones mostly filling the storytelling needs book authors did when Nobel instituted the prize.
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> So did Paul McCartney and John Lennon. Do you hear this in any of their work? I only hear it in "Rocky Racoon", which is one of my least favorite beatles songs as a result. I can't say I'm a fan of Stones-style rock and roll. I'd prefer Led Zeppelin; much less caterwauling and more music.
All of Rubber Soul. And outside of Rubber Soul, "I've Just Seen a Face" comes to mind. What a brilliant song.
And closing the circle, it's been covered by many American bluegrass bands:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=i%27ve+just+see...
Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan
#325I can't help but come back to: A South politician preaches to the poor white man "You got more than blacks, don't complain You're better than them, you been born with white skin" they explain And the Negro's name Is used it is plain For the politician's gain As he rises to fame And the poor white remains On the caboose of the train But it ain't him to blame He's only a pawn in their game. YouTube: https://m.youtube.c…
I've often though Dylan's The Times They Are A-Changing was analogous to Barlow's 1996 A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace[1] (not that I thought that was a great document, but it is a convenient symbol).
The optimism and feeling of change was the same.
The Altamont concert[2] was the end of that feeling in the 60's, just as the 2016 US election campaign has been the end of it now.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Declaration_of_the_Independe...
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Yes, some kind of federal system perhaps, with free movement between them, and a small national government to bind them together, so people can vote with both their ballots and feet. Too bad the progressive elite decided that system was too much of an obstacle to their agenda.
It's not so much the "progressive elite" as a general fact of human politics that in Federal systems power inexorably moves to the center as anything going wrong in the provinces will be taken over by the centralised state, but never vice versa. Nationhood is the only thing that seems able to resist this tendency at the present time.
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Wow... that's an easy one, but since you asked. Black US unemployment went from 15% (peaking at 16% a year later) in 2008 back down to 9.1% in 2016 (close to the 2007 pre-recession low). http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2011/ted_20111005.htm I encourage your fact based discovery of the economic condition of this country and it's citizens. Alternatively, we can all live in tot…
Black unemployment peaked at 16 when the national rate was 10. It dropped to 9.1 when the national rate is 5 so blacks did significantly worse than society as a whole.
Do you understand the difference between speed and acceleration?
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I agree with you, Romney has been relatively much more sane than other Republicans. I would have even voted for him if he was able to run as Massachusetts Governor Romney and not Pandering to the Insane Right Wing Romney. But he's certainly an outlier among the present class of Republicans. I think the Republican Party's pro-life position to be discriminatory against women. No one can force you to be an organ donor.…
> Immigration is a huge issue, and I really thought the GOP was turning the corner on it, but it's all fallen apart since the GOP decided it would rather pander to an angry white base. Amnesty for current illegal immigrants + improved border security and visa enforcement, so that it never happens again, is the obvious answer to the immigration problem. What many people don't know is that the American people were sold…
> but the religions are the source of our moral values
The US government is not founded on enforcing morals, but guaranteeing rights. For example, the 10 Commandments and the Bill of Rights are at distinct odds with each other.
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If you spend long enough looking at a problem you'll realize that there are a lot more 'edge cases' than there are 'normal' ones. Nobody undergoes an abortion for fun.
But if you're solving/addressing a problem efficiently, you should work out a solution where the event space can be mapped such that events classed 'typical' should far outnumber events classed 'edge.' Yes it's never going to be perfect when trying to overlay a closed system of logic on the open system that is the universe, but we've shown ourselves pretty capable at getting to good enough. In this case it is a quest…
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#330Totally 100% well deserved. Just imagine the 13 year old out there discovering "Masters of War" or "Idiot Wind" for the first time today. Their entire point of view is about to change. Mind upon to hitherto unknowable vistas. Ergo, the absolute benchmark of what Great Literature strives to embody. Also worth checking out is Dylan's controversial speech upon receiving the the MusiCares Person of the Year 2015 award. I…
There are plenty of prices for excellence in young adult literature. The noble price shouldn't be one of them.
> The nobel price
You aren't even trying.