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The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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I can't help but come back to: A South politician preaches to the poor white man "You got more than blacks, don't complain You're better than them, you been born with white skin" they explain And the Negro's name Is used it is plain For the politician's gain As he rises to fame And the poor white remains On the caboose of the train But it ain't him to blame He's only a pawn in their game. YouTube: https://m.youtube.c…

It's funny because when I think of "politicians who sow hatred, insecurity, fear and division for their own ends and don't care what mess they leave behind" I would first think of the Democrats.

So you just roll a 20-sided die to come up with your opinions, then?

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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It's funny because when I think of "politicians who sow hatred, insecurity, fear and division for their own ends and don't care what mess they leave behind" I would first think of the Democrats.

So you just roll a 20-sided die to come up with your opinions, then?

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Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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> When I see Trump rallies today full of angry people complaining their country has been 'taken from them' I can't help but think of that song. Give me a break. "Taking our country back" is talking about wrestling power back from the political and cultural elite that has emerged in the last half-century. This elite formed when 1) all of the smart kids started going off to college together and forming their own social…

>This elite formed when all of the smart kids started going off to college together and forming their own social bubble. You say that as if it's a bad thing.

It is if they run your country and you're outside the bubble.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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> When I see Trump rallies today full of angry people complaining their country has been 'taken from them' I can't help but think of that song. Give me a break. "Taking our country back" is talking about wrestling power back from the political and cultural elite that has emerged in the last half-century. This elite formed when 1) all of the smart kids started going off to college together and forming their own social…

>This elite formed when all of the smart kids started going off to college together and forming their own social bubble. You say that as if it's a bad thing.

It is. When a society is splintered and the elites try to rule as if they understand the masses, you will have greater strife.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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So you just roll a 20-sided die to come up with your opinions, then?

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He's pointing out that the Republicans are objectively the more divisive party in 2016. To be fair, it goes back and forth - 10 years ago I would have agreed with you.

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>This elite formed when all of the smart kids started going off to college together and forming their own social bubble. You say that as if it's a bad thing.

It is if they run your country and you're outside the bubble.

Who would you rather have running the country? The alternatives aren't even viable.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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>This elite formed when all of the smart kids started going off to college together and forming their own social bubble. You say that as if it's a bad thing.

It is. When a society is splintered and the elites try to rule as if they understand the masses, you will have greater strife.

Can you blame them? A large portion of the masses have aligned themselves with a con man.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Eh, I don't know unless you are referring to some event I am not familiar with. Yeah he's not writing protest songs anymore (unless you ask him [1]), but since he went electric, he's been doing what he wants, not what's expected of him. I saw him on tour this year, and it was a strange experience. The performance, song choice, and delivery felt more like he was just doing his music thing and I was paying to watch --…

Experienced exactly the same thing. Surreal. Enjoyed the opening act (Mark Knopfler) more than Dylan, but at least I saw him live once ;)

I'm jealous you got to see Mark Knopfler. My opener was Mavis Staples.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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My main complaint about Dylan is his terrible singing voice. Imagine what could have been if he had swallowed his pride and teamed with a great singer!

Of course, this complaint is invalid for a literature prize, so I can only say it's well deserved.

Maybe this can open up for film and TV writers to be considered. They're the ones mostly filling the storytelling needs book authors did when Nobel instituted the prize.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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I can't help but come back to: A South politician preaches to the poor white man "You got more than blacks, don't complain You're better than them, you been born with white skin" they explain And the Negro's name Is used it is plain For the politician's gain As he rises to fame And the poor white remains On the caboose of the train But it ain't him to blame He's only a pawn in their game. YouTube: https://m.youtube.c…

It is a well documented strategy for left-leaning politicians to import voters through unchecked immigration in an attempt to create an unassailable electoral base.

In this case, the politicians who "sow hatred, insecurity, fear and division for their own ends and don't care what mess they leave behind," are the leftists.

See the rapid, shocking, galling decline of civil society in some western European countries in recent years.

These mass immigration leftists sow hatred and insecurity when they act as if the natives of the western world(genetic Europeans,) are somehow in debt to the rest of the world for past sins. Strangely overlooking the fact that the entire modern world with all its convenience and affordances, huge improvements in health and nutrition etc. etc., are more or less entirely the product of Europeans. All peoples can look at some past actions with regret, but Europeans have clearly been a net positive on the world at an unprecedented scale.

These mass immigration leftists sow fear and division when they support the importation of huge population groups with the bonkers notion that these groups will then start behaving along the societal norms of the country they've been imported to, rather than the country they came from.

So the Trumpers are right, their country is being taken from them in this way.

But before we get too far in the weeds on a patented HN thread of only the most tenuous relevance, Congratulations Bob!

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