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Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Right, but is that how you define shoplifting? Shoplifting is when someone buys something, then has it withheld from them, then get a refund, then access that product from someone else offering to share it with them? I guess I was trying to move the conversation away from what I see as a flawed analogy to what I think is technically interesting, and that I have first hand experience with, in that the companies offeri…

No, that's the definition of 'entitled'. When just because its hard to get something, that taking it becomes justified.

Again, just a distraction

To be an issue of entitlement the person would have to say something that sets them apart, akin to: it's ok for me to pirate but for everyone else its bad;

Whereas the gp was just describing their process without applying any opinion on the ethics of others doing the same

an excuse is just an excuse, the special treatment is what makes it entitled

Have you ever pirated anything? If you have then your position would make you the entitled one because you are claiming it is wrong for this person to pirate though you have done so yourself

Why offer your opinion with lazy pithy statements and attempts to compartmentalise complex ideas into a single word?

It reads so demonstrative and finite as if these issues lack any capacity for dialogue

I think your perspective is important to this conversation but I'm unable to access it due to how you are presenting it

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #28

It sucks that Netflix is pushing their own content as a solution. Don't get me wrong, some of their own content is great, but I don't want to subscribe to 10 different streaming services that all have their own original content, I want to subscribe to one. Netflix--and others, like Amazon Prime--are becoming less and less worthwhile, and piracy is becoming more and more convenient again.

Yeah, I'm sure we are eventually going to see the re-emergence of traditional cable package models, just retooled for the digital age. Netflix is going to become the new Comcast and Amazon Video the new Time Warner. I assume it's only a matter of time before they cross-license content to each other, possibly as a premium add-on a la HBO and Starz.

The engine driving all of this that no one ever discusses is our current copyright regime. This cycle is going to continue to repeat itself as long as copyright remains unchanged. If our copyright laws were more sane, the whole thing would look a lot different.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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I am someone who vastly prefers films to tv. When Netflix launched as a dvd by mail service, it was the perfect service for film buffs. It was cheap, fast, and had a seemingly endless selection. Now that that part of the business is severely neglected, I'm back to requesting films from the local library and waiting months or spending $30-50 for a single film. I am sure their choice makes sense from a business standpoint, but leaves one-time customers like me in the cold.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #318

TL;DR: A former Netflix employee isn't surprised because films very little business sense for Netflix. Former Netflix employee here--though I left in late 2013. I remember sitting at a company meeting and Reed Hastings explaining that AAA film content was never going to be the bread-and-butter for Netflix for several reasons. Most importantly: Between traditional, "linear" television and Netflix, the experience that…

If that's the case, that leaves the problem (from the consumer's point of view) of where to get access to a complete(ish) catalog of films. Netflix actually achieved this back in the disc-by-mail days. So we're actually moving backwards. I'm not particularly ashamed to say I turn to unlicensed torrents for this purpose, but I would prefer if it weren't necessary.

Well, there's iTunes (a PPV service, of course). I'd like to know how big of a catalog iTunes have in terms of % of the 1,000 most popular movies they have.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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You seem to be missing the point that you continually bringing it up does not make it accurate or even relevant. You wouldn't download a car! This is a dumb argument.

I know this: the subject is complex and many varied and valid arguments are made on all sides. But amazingly, folks accept whatever argument gives them free entertainment. Objections are suddenly 'irrelevant' when watching their favorite TV show is at stake. Folks who wouldn't go in the back window of a bar to avoid the cover charge, will gladly go in the back way online to hear their favorite band. And they rely on…

This is no different from the situation during the US Prohibition era. Pragmatically speaking, the threat of punishment did not cause sufficient change in social behavior or attitudes. The ideal model of using law to manipulate society failed.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Meanwhile in the warez land everything is just 1 click away, hassle free and non-DRM encumbered.

Or you can pay a reasonable price to rent on iTunes and Amazon Prime. Stop pretending that you pirate because it's a "better experience". You pirate because it's cheaper to steal other people's hard work than to pay a fair price for it.

I may know a friend who torrented a film they had on DVD because their DVD player broke and it was faster and cheaper than ripping it themselves.

This is a tort again in the UK, it wasn't then.

Also, most people would be happy to pay the actors and crew a very healthy wage but baulk at paying to add DRM and several layers of executives whose function appears to be to make it as hard as possible to actually watch the content without paying again and again and who extract far more than their share of the revenue.

I actually looked for a download of that DVD (for my friend!) but none was available. The family in question used a hacked Wii to watch DVDs, but the DRM prevented half of them from working.

Meanwhile we watched a show on YouTube other day, we could have watched it on "watch again" but the content quality was immeasurably better. Of course that too was a tort akin to torrenting.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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TL;DR: A former Netflix employee isn't surprised because films very little business sense for Netflix. Former Netflix employee here--though I left in late 2013. I remember sitting at a company meeting and Reed Hastings explaining that AAA film content was never going to be the bread-and-butter for Netflix for several reasons. Most importantly: Between traditional, "linear" television and Netflix, the experience that…

Do people not binge watch movies on Netflix because of something inherent in the form, or because Netflix doesn't make continuous play of related sets of movjrs, especially serial franchises (where it would make sense just as it does for TV series) possible, both because it doesn't support it as the default (or even an optional) mode in the UI as it does for TV series and because it also rarely has whole franchises in its library to support it even manually?

I suspect it's as much the latter as the former.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #318

TL;DR: A former Netflix employee isn't surprised because films very little business sense for Netflix. Former Netflix employee here--though I left in late 2013. I remember sitting at a company meeting and Reed Hastings explaining that AAA film content was never going to be the bread-and-butter for Netflix for several reasons. Most importantly: Between traditional, "linear" television and Netflix, the experience that…

If that's the case, that leaves the problem (from the consumer's point of view) of where to get access to a complete(ish) catalog of films. Netflix actually achieved this back in the disc-by-mail days. So we're actually moving backwards. I'm not particularly ashamed to say I turn to unlicensed torrents for this purpose, but I would prefer if it weren't necessary.

"Netflix actually achieved this back in the disc-by-mail days."

Netflix's DVD service still exists.[1] They have a fantastic selection, compared to their streaming service.

[1] - https://dvd.netflix.com/

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well if the front door was inconvenient and hard to find, and then I paid for it and the front door wouldn't work, then yeah maybe I would go in the back window. Your argument is so flawed, and it really seems like with your comment above that you just are looking for a reason to call the younger generation "entitled". Stop using physical examples, they don't correlate to a digital good that can be duplicated digital…

They got a refund. Then pirated. I understand they were frustrated in their efforts to be entertained. Then took what they wanted. Which is pretty much the definition of 'entitled' Everything is pretty much physical in the real world. Like the physical time and effort folks make to provide services and market them.

Why is the streaming services not the entitled ones in this scenario? According to you they should get payment when their sole contribution was wasting their want-to-be-customers' time.
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