Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List • Hacker News Board

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by cylinder » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:10 PM UTC

draugadrotten wrote: post #72

SCdF wrote: post #28

It sucks that Netflix is pushing their own content as a solution. Don't get me wrong, some of their own content is great, but I don't want to subscribe to 10 different streaming services that all have their own original content, I want to subscribe to one. Netflix--and others, like Amazon Prime--are becoming less and less worthwhile, and piracy is becoming more and more convenient again.

> Netflix--and others, like Amazon Prime--are becoming less and less worthwhile, and piracy is becoming more and more convenient again. Lawyers are the primary reason why Netflix is becoming less convenient, and by pure coincidence, lawyers will benefit from an increase in piracy. Money talks.

Are you joking? Lawyers don't originate and decide the negotiations. The value of streaming rights have increased as streaming has become more popular, so Netflix cannot afford to keep as broad of a portfolio. Especially as the value of content is currently quite ambiguous, due to the early stage nature of stream, and the amount of competitors experimenting with building their own streaming services (their willingness to lose money obfuscates the real value of these rights).

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by Shivetya » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:10 PM UTC

roboguy12 wrote: post #85

SCdF wrote: post #28

It sucks that Netflix is pushing their own content as a solution. Don't get me wrong, some of their own content is great, but I don't want to subscribe to 10 different streaming services that all have their own original content, I want to subscribe to one. Netflix--and others, like Amazon Prime--are becoming less and less worthwhile, and piracy is becoming more and more convenient again.

Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

Even with 1g internet I have had issues streaming from some sites which always astounds me. However what really is annoying is that it is so much cheaper and with better quality to just redbox a movie than stream it.

I cannot recall a recent movie I have streamed simply because most of the time it can be a third to more than half the price of buying a blu-ray.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by andybak » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC

epistasis wrote: post #111

roboguy12 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

There are two issues here, the fragmentation of the services, and poorly implemented services. I have really really tried to use Google Play for video because it seems to work on the broadest array of devices, but the service itself is a second rate experience. Too many clicks, laggy unresponsive UI, silly JS driven pages that require reloading in order to start working again... I too really want to do things the way…

I usually stream from the mobile App rather than the web page. I'm assuming you're wanting to watch in a desktop browser?

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC

epistasis wrote: post #111

roboguy12 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

There are two issues here, the fragmentation of the services, and poorly implemented services. I have really really tried to use Google Play for video because it seems to work on the broadest array of devices, but the service itself is a second rate experience. Too many clicks, laggy unresponsive UI, silly JS driven pages that require reloading in order to start working again... I too really want to do things the way…

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Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by shadowfiend » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC

reitanqild wrote: post #109

jimcsharp wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iTunes has à la carte television with a small lead time. It's had it for years. I guess what people want is unsustainably cheap à la carte offerings.

I for one would be happy with either: Pay per view (multiple sources ok) Or All-you-can-x from one place like Spotify What I don't like is paying monthly to a number of services. Also (honest question, I might send money Apples way if the answer is yes:) Do iTunes work standaloneon Windows (and preferably Linux) and can I legally watch stuff there even if I sit somewhere in Europe?

As far as I now, the answer is yes to Windows (not Linux), and you can legally watch US stuff in Europe as long as your iTunes account is associated with a US account as far as I know (98% certain I did exactly this a couple of years ago).

However, iTunes is only pay-per-view for some films, and hasn't been pay-per-view for TV episodes for some time. TV episodes you must buy (either one at a time for typically ~$3 or you can buy a whole season, or you can pay the remainder of the season cost if you've already bought episodes from it). Some films are rentable ($3-$6, once you've rented I believe you have 30 days to start watching and then 24 hours to finish/watch as many times as you want), but most are for sale rather than rent. It's not unusual for me to run across a film I'd like to watch, but ends up not being rentable so I have to decide if I want to full-on buy it (which is closer to $15-$20).

Not the greatest solution, but usually better than other solutions for me.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by e40 » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC

jhbadger wrote: post #5

While I'm sure it's not entirely Netflix's fault (media companies realizing their back catalog has a value), it seems to be a common evolution for movie services to move to providing their own content. Look at HBO. In the 1980s, it was all about showing movies (the name even meant "Home Box Office"). Now it is all about Game of Thrones and what not. With things like House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, etc., that…

While I'm sure it's not entirely Netflix's fault

It's very clearly not Netflix's fault. The content owners want Netflix to die. Had Netflix not gone the "make our own content" route, they would be dead now (or the walking dead with just DVD customers).

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by rayiner » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC

SCdF wrote: post #28

It sucks that Netflix is pushing their own content as a solution. Don't get me wrong, some of their own content is great, but I don't want to subscribe to 10 different streaming services that all have their own original content, I want to subscribe to one. Netflix--and others, like Amazon Prime--are becoming less and less worthwhile, and piracy is becoming more and more convenient again.

I strongly disagree. I'd much rather have upstarts competing with great new content instead of all of them streaming the same dreck from the same handful of major studios. That's exactly what a market should look like.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by givinguflac » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:12 PM UTC

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #110

roboguy12 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

Yeah I'm not sympathetic. The alternative to finding (and failing to find) a service to watch the show could possibly be - not watching it? The conclusion 'naturally we then had to steal it' isn't entirely justified. Shoplifting is easy and convenient too. Next time you forget your wallet at the corner store. Just sayin.

This isn't forgetting a wallet when you get to the store. This is going to the store, buying the product, and then having the product just magically evaporate once you get half way home. Then you go back to the store, ask for help with your disappearing product, and be told they can't help you. Your analogy is terrible.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by andybak » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:13 PM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #118

roboguy12 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

> Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not allow you to do that, presumably because they want you to buy their Fire TV instead. It works on a phone or tablet if you cast the whole screen. Might work on a laptop the same way.

Does it play OK like that? I vaguely remember it dropped frames or the sync was out or something that made me go 'ugh'.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by givinguflac » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 2:13 PM UTC

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #119

ekianjo wrote: post #116

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The analogy between shoplifting and copyright infrigement gets really, really old.

I know; I have to keep bringing it up because people keep pretending they're owed entertainment. This entitled generation is just disappointing.

You seem to be missing the point that you continually bringing it up does not make it accurate or even relevant. You wouldn't download a car! This is a dumb argument.