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Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by novaleaf »

hackerkid wrote: post #166
WhitneyLand wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever. For example they were ahead of everyone with the Theranos news. I think the idea of putting links on HN is its better to know about it asap, rather than possibly using a slower or less comprehensive source.

> Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever This story has been in Reddit home page for last 14 hours pointing to the original source on the official Samsung website[1]. This content is neither exclusive nor breaking. [1] https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-...

That's not exactly true. The story that's been floating around for 14 hours is that sales have been put on hold and all units should be recalled.

This WSJ article on samsung PERMANENTLY discontinuing sales is a substantially different development.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by UnoriginalGuy »

happyslobro wrote: post #171

The recall notice only seems to apply to people who bought the phone in America. If you change the "us" in the url of the official notice to something else, like "ca", you get a 404. http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ Is this recall only available in the US? Is the rest of the world basically screwed, unless their own governments put some pressure on Samsung? From the FAQ: > 4. I participated in the U.S. Note7 Ex…

I'm not sure what you think that proves. A US URL works for the US and talks about the US? Surprising? Other countries are doing recalls too, and have pages talking about it.

Here is the Taiwan URL:

http://www.samsung.com/tw/news/product/galaxy-note7-announce...

Here is the Canadian URL:

http://www.samsung.com/ca/note7exchange/

Here is the Australian URL:

http://www.samsung.com/au/galaxynote7-notice/

Here is the Chinese homepage (see the pop-out note about the Note 7 to the left):

http://www.samsung.com/cn/home/

It is a global recall. You just cannot guess the URL in the way you think you should be able to.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by tobtoh »

basicplus2 wrote: post #124

I don't get this... Its the battery.. not the phone. Surely discontinue the battery.

Couldn't it be the charging circuit? Or some fault in the power circuits that draws too much current too quickly? ie it might be something that is easy to replace like the battery, but something that requires a fundamental redesign of the electronics.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by metafunctor »

johnchristopher wrote: post #178
metafunctor wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a good point, and I applaud the Wall Street Journal for their journalistic efforts. I'm thinking we should get a WSJ subscription in our company. I'm not so sure if Hacker News should be an outlet for breaking news. The HN platform is not very well suited for real-time news in general. Myself, I use Hacker news for "daily important news" much less than breaking news.

I don't like getting into word definition argument but doesn't that information about Samsung fall under the daily important news rather than the breaking news ?

Yes, it does. That's why I'd like to see a link to a free source (that doesn't require one to pull ostentibly illegal tricks to read the contents) rather than an advertisement.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by richardboegli »

metafunctor wrote: post #88

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12684081

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by richardboegli »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #116
metafunctor wrote: post #88

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever. For example they were ahead of everyone with the Theranos news. I think the idea of putting links on HN is its better to know about it asap, rather than possibly using a slower or less comprehensive source.

Bloomberg actually had it almost two hours earlier than WSJ. I've just posted it to HN just now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12684081

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by taneq »

josh2600 wrote: post #138
PaulRobinson wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, let's go through their other businesses. Samsung SDI is going to struggle in a World with cheap coal prices and political inclinations (cf. Trump campaign) to not care about environmental impacts. Samsung Heavy Industries is already struggling because of market demands for new container ships dropping off sharply in recent years - there has been a glut of supply for some years. Their Engineering and Constructio…

Samsung is too much of South Korea's GDP to go bankrupt. For Samsung to fail, the Korean economy would have to also fail, which is possible but unlikely. I think that if you compare Samsung's Note 7 to Nokia's Burning Platform, the prospects for Samsung are significantly better (Nokia not only destroyed the value of 100% of their inventory but also all of their future inventory until the OS changeover happened; Samsu…

Isn't that backwards? (ie. if Samsung failed, South Korea's economy would take a massive hit?)

I think this will hurt Samsung significantly but not fatally. They'll come back with a nice fancy new phone (although they may not re-use the Note moniker) and they'll price it at barely above break-even to encourage people to give them another chance, and people will love them again.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by marcosdumay »

grkvlt wrote: post #140
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

> This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer You'd be surprised about how much of the general public even knows that there is a type of Samsung phone that can spontaneously combust, and the proportion of those people that care and will continue to remember that fact when they are looking for a new phone is also going to be quite small. I have had to explain the story to friends who…

This time almost everybody knows. With every flight announcing "you can use your electronic devices now, in airplane mode - except for the Galaxy Note 7, that must stay off during all the trip", people won't forget for a while.

In Samsung's shoes, I'd kill the Note brand.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by toxican »

MicroBerto wrote: post #48
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

> many consumers won't buy Samsung phones again as a minimum when they're first released, maybe never as a worst case scenario. I think this is an overreaction. I have a Samsung, and will buy another if it's the best value for what I need next time I'm phone shopping. Consumers have short memories and there aren't that many legitimate alternatives to Apple.

Personally I'm hoping the next iteration of the Note sees a nice price drop to convince consumers to buy back in. I'd jump in at that point.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by amyjess »

Nursie wrote: post #90
PaulRobinson wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, let's go through their other businesses. Samsung SDI is going to struggle in a World with cheap coal prices and political inclinations (cf. Trump campaign) to not care about environmental impacts. Samsung Heavy Industries is already struggling because of market demands for new container ships dropping off sharply in recent years - there has been a glut of supply for some years. Their Engineering and Constructio…

So they have a massively diversified business that faces many risks, just as others in those sectors do, but which is generally doing pretty well. One phone will not kill this. Having just bought a new Samsung washing machine, the story that they are exploding seems to have passed me by. I'm not a fanboi - I'm typing this on a Nexus 6 and considering another motorola next - I just think that saying this might be fata…

> Having just bought a new Samsung washing machine, the story that they are exploding seems to have passed me by.

This was on the local news where I live: http://www.wfaa.com/news/samsung-washing-machine-explodes-in...

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