Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone • Hacker News Board

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by ManlyBread » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 10:54 AM UTC

mcculley wrote: post #50

RGamma wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe next time they'll offer replaceable batteries, which would have made this situation much less painful and is generally a plus for consumers anyway...

To make the battery replaceable while still providing the same amount of energy would require a thicker case around the battery, thicker contacts, and a discrete accessible compartment in the phone. All of this adds up to a much bigger phone. The days of replaceable batteries are over.

The chase for the thinnest device possible is plain stupid, the current devices with a replaceable battery are already thin enough to fit in a pocket, why go even further if it's such an inconvenience? For me, not having a replaceable battery is a very good reason to avoid buying such a device.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by Jaruzel » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 10:56 AM UTC

lmm wrote: post #41

NicoJuicy wrote: post #17

This is the second article i can't access in a short time. Please consider changing the url to the nytimes article or deleting the article on itselve. I don't think HN should contain links to paywalled sites like wsj.com

Many of us agree. Unfortunately per dang policy such links are allowed and we're not even supposed to discuss it in the comments here. I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you would like an invite to lobste.rs I'm happy to send you one.

I quite fancy joining lobste.rs as I've been reading it anon for a while now, so an invite would be gratefully received. my email is @.com

Thanks!

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by pfortuny » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 10:57 AM UTC

toyg wrote: post #20

pfortuny wrote: post #16

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Sorry, where is that? Cannot see at all and the link in the title sends me to the paywall. Thanks.

You have to go to the comments page for a link, and then you'll see it just below the main link.

Thanks, I had never seen it.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by DasIch » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 10:57 AM UTC

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

Samsung isn't just a company it's a conglomerate. Their entire mobile division could crash and they'd still be fine.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by oneeyedpigeon » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 10:59 AM UTC

krapp wrote: post #57

lmm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of us agree. Unfortunately per dang policy such links are allowed and we're not even supposed to discuss it in the comments here. I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you would like an invite to lobste.rs I'm happy to send you one.

>I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you refuse to read the posted article, then you should choose not to participate in threads discussing it, rather than wasting valuable thread-space with off-topic complaints about the site's business model.

It's not about refusing to read an article, it's about it being difficult, if not impossible, to read it. If sites don't want the general public to read their content, we should respect that; the content probably isn't suitable for a free, open discussion site like HN.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by esolyt » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 11:00 AM UTC

minikites wrote: post #4

Now the question is, will they just re-release the same thing as the "Galaxy Note 8"?

At this point I'm beginning to think that is real possibility, not just a joke.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by danso » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 11:05 AM UTC

kuschku wrote: post #28

kenny_r wrote: post #6

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FYI: HN has a recent feature where there's a link labeled "web" under the article link, which brings you to a web search. Clicking the first result will bypass the paywall.

Not anymore, that was true once, but doesn't work for me anymore (Germany).

Just VPNed into a German ISP and it worked for me. Are you using a plugin that blocks the referrer?

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by metafunctor » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 11:06 AM UTC

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news?

I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by danielbln » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 11:06 AM UTC

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #38

drcross wrote: post #27

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The Note was not a flagship line. Samsung has so many other industries that I think it will do just fine in the long run.

It will definitely harm the company-as-a-brand, though. People following the news who haven't owned a Samsung phone before might well be put off any Samsung device, ignoring the distinction between the Note and other lines. If it were only about the phone model, the fallout might be much smaller, but it's now become about Samsung's appalling handling of the problems too.

Hell, I owned Galaxy phones for the last 5 years, and even I will be hesitant buying the next Galaxy and will probably wait a few months to see, if any problems show up.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by Nursie » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 11:07 AM UTC

PaulRobinson wrote: post #79

Nursie wrote: post #56

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It's obviously not good but yes, you were an idiot to say it could be the end of Samsung. They make everything from cutting edge phones to air-conditioning. One product in one business area going wrong like this is not going to be fatal.

Well, let's go through their other businesses. Samsung SDI is going to struggle in a World with cheap coal prices and political inclinations (cf. Trump campaign) to not care about environmental impacts. Samsung Heavy Industries is already struggling because of market demands for new container ships dropping off sharply in recent years - there has been a glut of supply for some years. Their Engineering and Constructio…

So they have a massively diversified business that faces many risks, just as others in those sectors do, but which is generally doing pretty well.

One phone will not kill this.

Having just bought a new Samsung washing machine, the story that they are exploding seems to have passed me by.

I'm not a fanboi - I'm typing this on a Nexus 6 and considering another motorola next - I just think that saying this might be fatal is somewhat silly.