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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I didn't really appreciate that feature when I realized that it assumed that I was in San Francisco and was muting conversations at 6PM pacific.

Wow, did Slack just assume your timezone?

It's possible that they put the option in front of me at some point but I don't ever remember it if they did.

I certainly wouldn't ever pick SF/PDT as a timezone.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I think you have no idea how to real world works. Most of the arguments against Facebook sadly seem to be wildly out of touch with reality. Amazing that these essentially conspiracy theories are cultivated by otherwise pretty smart people - software engineers.

I agree. If FB did such a thing it would end whatever enterprise business they hoped to gain.

Except there is no evidente that anyone would care. They are sharing huge amounts of data on individuals with third parties. People continue to use and pay for the service.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I don't get the negativity. This is kinda awesome! News feeds will be good to monitor what's going on across many groups / teams, groups can help your team post and communicate across various topics (same with messaging). Honestly the live video streams on demand is kinda huge; this isn't always something easy for companies to do especially large companies but Facebook can pull this off and make it look great for tho…

I think people have largely gotten the message that companies which thrive on collecting and selling user data, are poison to be avoided at all costs.

But that message has translated to precisely zero actual change in habit.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Let's count. According to https://workplace.fb.com/pricing/ , it's $1-$3 per user. A cheaper server is ~$7k. It means that a company of of 9k personnel ( which is not too small ) will produce $18k per month. That can buy 2 servers per month and maybe cover some of the bandwidth costs. To get a rack of servers - which I believe is the minimum to actually serve a company of this size - you'll need to have them on board…

According to their 2015 SEC filing, FB own about $3.6b in networking equipment (servers, switches, etc). This new way of using Facebook code will very likely just fit in to their existing infrastructure so they're using it a bit more efficiently. The cost in terms of hardware and connectivity is, essentially, already paid.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I am in Germany. The NSA debacle made a lot of important people quite unhappy here, not to mention the current tensions between DBank & DOJ and so on... - so I am afraid we would interpret this a bit like Apple's labels, except in this case we would read: Designed in NSA - Made in UK .

Is there an IT angle on the DBank/DOJ story or is this just anti-USA?

Some have interpreted the DOJ fine to be a sort of retaliation for fines applied by EU to Apple/Google (especially the first for the Ireland tax rebates).

I have no particular authority in saying if this is actually the case or not, but my feeling is that in Europe (and especially in Germany) there will be a lot of resistance towards Facebook solutions (the recent Whatsapp decision to share data with the parent company is another thing that did not sit well here, for example).

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I own 3 retail stores and am excited about this.

We have used GroupMe for a few years, but I am dissatisfied with how limited it is. Our team is not sitting at a computer all day and mostly needs to share information efficiently.

With 3 locations, it needs to be digital. With 2 shift blocks per day, 7 days per week, it is hard to keep everyone working collaboratively on things like promotions, social media marketing efforts, etc.

I also like that it includes the opportunity to work with other companies.

I am also a SaaS software vendor for retail store owners like me. I could definitely see integrating this into our app (ResaleAI.com) and had considered Slack and others. So yeah, I signed up to play with it internally first.

I am cautiously optimistic.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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if you think for one minute that FB isn't going to be able to link this back to your personal FB account you're a fool

While I appreciate being informed what does or doesn't make me a fool by internet strangers, I don't think that was the concern of the parent post. I believe their concern was that they would be seeing work related content popup while they were on their personal Facebook account thus mixing work/personal life. I think the point of making it a completely separate account is to ease companies fears of users getting suc…

Nope, the concern of the parent post was that they would link my work and personal profiles behind the scenes. I don't want to see work-related content pop up, but it's a secondary concern. I don't want Facebook to know what I do both when I'm at work and when I'm on personal time, because I don't trust their company.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I try very hard to separate my work life and personal life. This would make me do one of two things: - Stop using facebook for personal purposes and treat it like a more featureful LinkedIn - Quit my job and find another which doesn't require me to give work information to a company which has a trove of my personal information

Are you okay with working at a company using Google Apps for Work/GSuite?

Yes, because I use Duck Duck Go for browsing and my personal emails are generally not very revealing. Google certainly has a good deal of my personal information, but I purposefully keep it limited. For that reason, I'm okay with having them as my work email provider.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I think you have no idea how to real world works. Most of the arguments against Facebook sadly seem to be wildly out of touch with reality. Amazing that these essentially conspiracy theories are cultivated by otherwise pretty smart people - software engineers.

Real world? You must be aware of real world events in which this sort of thing really has already happened. The ultimate arbiter is reality, and in reality this sort of thing does already happen. We could do it brazenly over the counter, or alternatively I could pay Facebook to act as a consultant; to give me their view of my market. To satisfy the legal chaps, we can just scrape the names off the data and then summa…

Its disappointing that you are trying to counter my question and keep suggesting this happens in the real world all the time with no citation to support it.

Lots of illicit things happen should we just shut down the world entirely? Cars kill people so we shouldn't approach the streets. Food can make you ill if supply chains don't handle it properly so we should stop eating.

You are suggesting that because people break laws we should not do things. That's not how it works.

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