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Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#101

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Use the web link at the top. Even better is that you get an AMP version of the story.

The web link at which top? The link on news.ycombinator.com, which I was responding to, goes to a paywall teaser.

Just below the headline in hackernews, you'll see a small "toolbar" of links:

> N points by someone 2 hours ago | flag | hide | past | web | N comments | favorite

The OP was referring to the one that says "web"

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#102

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

If Google refers you to the article from its search results, you can see the whole thing. Try searching for the headline!

OK. So it's the old "Google for the URL or title" and you may get the content thing.

Am I the only one who thinks this sucks? If so, I will bite my lip and shut up.

I believe in the open Internet. I don't even run an ad blocker for sites that aren't complete assholes with their ads.

But this is just stupid.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#103
post #90

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Well, let's go through their other businesses. Samsung SDI is going to struggle in a World with cheap coal prices and political inclinations (cf. Trump campaign) to not care about environmental impacts. Samsung Heavy Industries is already struggling because of market demands for new container ships dropping off sharply in recent years - there has been a glut of supply for some years. Their Engineering and Constructio…

So they have a massively diversified business that faces many risks, just as others in those sectors do, but which is generally doing pretty well. One phone will not kill this. Having just bought a new Samsung washing machine, the story that they are exploding seems to have passed me by. I'm not a fanboi - I'm typing this on a Nexus 6 and considering another motorola next - I just think that saying this might be fata…

I think "exploding" was an unfortunate choice of words, and that was supposed to mean they are selling a lot(they seem to be popular in Brazil and are considererd high end).

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web link at which top? The link on news.ycombinator.com, which I was responding to, goes to a paywall teaser.

Just below the headline in hackernews, you'll see a small "toolbar" of links: > N points by someone 2 hours ago | flag | hide | past | web | N comments | favorite The OP was referring to the one that says "web"

Interesting, didn't realize the Hacker News had a paywall workaround built in.

Let's just hope Rupert Murdoch doesn't sue us all.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#105
post #80

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Could it have been an issue with the deign of the battery itself, so the failure would happen regardless of who manufactured the battery?

Why do batteries need to be unique for each model? Some laptop lines (e.g. Lenovo) share removable batteries among models with similar power needs. Same used to be true of phones which had removable batteries from the same phone vendor.

Because everybody wants to be special. Size, weight, optimalization, screen edge corner angle, etc. It is a senseless, unsustainable development practice that creates much waste each year. Nobody seems to look at the future, everybody just wants to win in the here and now.

4 degrees later, we are all gone. The batteries remain, for a while. In 2135 CE, the last Samsung battery too will catch fire, starting an unstoppable wildfire that will consume much of Eurasia, along with whoever survived the previous social collapse. Then, only ashes will remain.

Fuck the pandas, save ourselves.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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post #80

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Could it have been an issue with the deign of the battery itself, so the failure would happen regardless of who manufactured the battery?

Why do batteries need to be unique for each model? Some laptop lines (e.g. Lenovo) share removable batteries among models with similar power needs. Same used to be true of phones which had removable batteries from the same phone vendor.

That was before flagship phones needed to become thinner and bigger every few months. Can't have commonality of parts if your six months old battery is thicker than the whole new phone.

(There's still plenty of phones with replaceable, more-or-less standardized batteries available… but it's $50-200 phones that nobody wants to buy because they're not sexy enough. Even though they've been fast enough for years…)

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#107
post #57

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>I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you refuse to read the posted article, then you should choose not to participate in threads discussing it, rather than wasting valuable thread-space with off-topic complaints about the site's business model.

It's not about refusing to read an article, it's about it being difficult, if not impossible, to read it. If sites don't want the general public to read their content, we should respect that; the content probably isn't suitable for a free, open discussion site like HN.

It's neither difficult nor impossible to read.

Some people refuse to read any paywalled articles or attempt to work around them, and then insist that Hacker News should cater to them by not allowing those articles to be posted to begin with.

And yet discussion of those articles exists despite their objections, so obviously the problem isn't that the articles aren't accessible, or can't generate discussion, but that people are offended at the existence of paywalls and want their ideals to take priority over what can and can't be discussed here.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#109

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If Google refers you to the article from its search results, you can see the whole thing. Try searching for the headline!

OK. So it's the old "Google for the URL or title" and you may get the content thing. Am I the only one who thinks this sucks? If so, I will bite my lip and shut up. I believe in the open Internet. I don't even run an ad blocker for sites that aren't complete assholes with their ads. But this is just stupid.

Look dude, if you hate it so much, buy a subscription.

You sound entitled. Be glad you can use the google referral trick at all.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

#110
post #56

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It's obviously not good but yes, you were an idiot to say it could be the end of Samsung. They make everything from cutting edge phones to air-conditioning. One product in one business area going wrong like this is not going to be fatal.

Well, let's go through their other businesses. Samsung SDI is going to struggle in a World with cheap coal prices and political inclinations (cf. Trump campaign) to not care about environmental impacts. Samsung Heavy Industries is already struggling because of market demands for new container ships dropping off sharply in recent years - there has been a glut of supply for some years. Their Engineering and Constructio…

Yes, Samsung is going to suffer, that's certain. But failing, as in going bankrupt? No. They are simply too important for South Korea to let them go bankrupt.

But you backpedalled on that point already as well, and no one, even the biggest fanboy, would argue that they are not going to have large problems. Like every large company somewhere on its track.

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