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FYI: HN has a recent feature where there's a link labeled "web" under the article link, which brings you to a web search. Clicking the first result will bypass the paywall.
It doesn't work on mobile. Please stop linking to WSJ.
Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone
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>I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you refuse to read the posted article, then you should choose not to participate in threads discussing it, rather than wasting valuable thread-space with off-topic complaints about the site's business model.
Thread space is unlimited. Space on the HN front page, by contrast, is limited, and I would prefer it were not wasted on paywalled articles.
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Sprint to a replacement? To basically do the same mistake twice (or thrice if you will)? My bet is that they'll retreat and introduce the basic concept in/as another brand next year.
Couldn't they replace the defective design from their other product lines? What is the actual root cause, battery or controlling electronics?
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That's not what the Verge article says. Verizon is taking back devices that they have sold, as are other carriers, but Samsung has not issued a recall of the replacement Note 7 devices. Offering refunds to customers isn't the same as issuing a formal recall of all devices. They're doing the absolute minimum they can possibly get away with and trying to sweep the 'fixed' replacement Note 7 situation under the carpet.…
Sorry, updated with a better link from Samsung directly.
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The Note was not a flagship line. Samsung has so many other industries that I think it will do just fine in the long run.
Except that their washing machines are also exploding.
Remember that? It affected all Samsung EVO drives, which is marketing speak for all Samsung SLC based drives, which means budget drives, the Pro versions based on MLC were unaffected.
But, the way Samsung handled my case, to deny warranty, and in general case to release an .exe file on their website called "Slow fix something.exe", has me stay away from Samsung SSDs for ever.
The other "fix" they had was to release a firmware which would shuffle data around in the background - reading and rewriting/updating cells - so as to appear that there is no problem - but read speed would anyway decrease with age, and increase the write-cycles on the cells even if the SSD is idle... Fun.
I recommend SanDisk Extreme Pro -- they are awesome good value drives - may exist newer on the market now, but last autumn those were and still are the best SSDs ever.
Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone
#77If we're lucky it will be ultra-capacitors that charge in seconds rather than hours. Unfortunately that tech still has 5x less capacity than lithiums.
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Maybe next time they'll offer replaceable batteries, which would have made this situation much less painful and is generally a plus for consumers anyway...
To make the battery replaceable while still providing the same amount of energy would require a thicker case around the battery, thicker contacts, and a discrete accessible compartment in the phone. All of this adds up to a much bigger phone. The days of replaceable batteries are over.
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#79[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…
It's obviously not good but yes, you were an idiot to say it could be the end of Samsung. They make everything from cutting edge phones to air-conditioning. One product in one business area going wrong like this is not going to be fatal.
Samsung SDI is going to struggle in a World with cheap coal prices and political inclinations (cf. Trump campaign) to not care about environmental impacts.
Samsung Heavy Industries is already struggling because of market demands for new container ships dropping off sharply in recent years - there has been a glut of supply for some years.
Their Engineering and Construction groups have moderate turnover on focused/strategic projects that go to lowest-cost bidders, they can't keep the entire company going.
They have a reasonable sized Financial Services group of companies, but they're not exactly global players, and it's going to be hard to see them picking up enough growth to keep things going if their consumer electronics division flounders.
They have a group dedicated to health and medical equipment, that might do well, but the largest market for healthcare in the World (the US), is currently playing political football with that industry, so, you know, tricky.
Their washing machines are exploding, and demand for products like air conditioning remains high but might be curbed by issues in the power sector within developing nations as people try to figure out what that infrastructure looks like on the 10-year, 25-year and 50-year terms, which again, they are fighting in another group.
They have a ton of electronics businesses that will continue to do well, but ironically because Apple is one of their biggest customers for their products.
It's not obvious to me that they are more robust than Nokia was. They have a lot of risks across a lot of their groups, with their phone division being perhaps the lowest risk group of the lot.
Good luck to them, but the Samsung fanbois (and yes, there are many of them), need to realise this is going to be a tough time for the company. For the sake of the smaller stockholders and the employees, I hope they get through this.
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Apparently some rare manufacturing fault that put pressure on internal poles, short-circuiting the battery: https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-explo...
Still unclear why some replacements (which have batteries from a different supplier) are exhibiting a similar failure mode.